I would think it very unlikely that MeeGo will hit the N900 (officially) until at least October (with the new devices and the full launch of MeeGo 1.1) if at all.

For me, the big issue with the N900 right now is that there are stability issues and "minor" functionality issues that PR1.2 will fix according to the change log AND, far more importantly to most basic users, the Ovi Store does not support paid apps which means that commercial developers are leaving the device alone.

My other half is a programmer of (amongst other things) iPhone apps. The SDK is straightforward and works with one simple install. It has a pdf manual that is complete and does not rely on arsey gits writing "don't you EVEN know THIS" wikis. In short, "it just works" as Jobs would say.

As more of a mid-range geek myself, I have had a tinker with both and the iPhone SDK is a far more comfortable coding environment in every sense - and I have never been an iPhone or Mac user.

For a commercial developer such as the more attractive one in my house, the issue is "why waste my time developing apps and f$%^ing about with a half-baked OS and SDK when I cannot even sell the product at a single point of sale?" That has got to be a fair argument. For those who code for the love of it, fair enough. Knock yourselves out. Linux geeks have been doing just that for year.

When companies like Rovio (and there must be others) have openly stated that the only thing stopping them from releasing goodies for us is the lack of a payment-supporting single market point, why can Nokia not give some sort of idea as to when (if ever) it can be expected? What is the commercial harm in doing so? Who loses?

Nokia don't as they keep devs and consumers a little bit happier. Consumers will have a bit of expectation management (and so fewer people will post stupid suggestions that PR1.2 may bring about world peace and end poverty). Devs know that, if they want to start getting their apps together and throw themselves into the Maemo/MeeGo storm for the long haul, they will eventually be able to take the product to market.

What will competitors learn and use against Nokia? The fact that Nokia F'd up? They know that already. The fact that OVI will be back in play for the fastest and best mobile device out there? They would guess that might happen sooner or later anyway.

So Nokia, give us PR1.2 when it is ready but don't drag your heels. Give us back a paid app store so the experience gets better.

OR at least tell us if you are ever going to and when we might, if we are good boys and girls, get a bone thrown to us.

any one know when pr1.2 will be out

omfg.... everyone was whining beacause nokia released the N900 2 or 3 months "too late".... then everyone was crying because of random issues...

AND NOW.... everyone is crying about pr1.2.... wtf??

if nokia rush with something then they will make like every other human mistakes.....

if nokia make mistakes you will enjoy some beatiful things... named bugs....

i dont want bugs so i dont want nokia to hurry.... i will wait until its done... no matter how long it takes.... but i want enjoy pr1.2 bugfree....

understand??

ahh so it will be released this saturday at 22:00 ...
ohh wait now i expect it around that time, so thats also not the right date anymore.

Which require a Mac ... which didn't allow onboard dev ... which only allow their tools ... hum ... it s easy with such require.

any news on software

Don't hold your breath. One thing is for sure, this is the last phone I am getting from Nokia.

Try this: http://bit.ly/cQjrxU

Might also be me too. I might lean toward HTC right now. Since HTC gives so much better device, but would be nice to have MeeGo on HTC

This is getting ridiculous. Especially with all the newer apps requiring libraries that are missing in pr1.1.1. Does nokia's dev team consists of monkeys sitting in front of monitors? What the moses is going on?