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2010-02-15
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
they should of told all the council imo.
Interesting, however I'm not sure what Valério was supposed to do with this info except sit on it. Briefing the whole council would make more sense (because at least then they can discuss something useful amongst themselves), this feels more like informing for the sake of being able to say they informed (or perhaps because that was the best they were able to get).
b/c i leaked the news hours before the event any way atleast they would not of had a shock and worried
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2010-02-15
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Originally Posted by qole
As much as it frustrates me, I just don't see any other way two large companies like Intel and Nokia could really have gone about this. In the end, money talks and a big PR move like this brings a lot more interest than having a pow-wow with your community.
Well, he was supposed to be a community proxy and be involved, but it sounds like it didn't work out that way.
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2010-02-15
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#124
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I totally agree
As much as it frustrates me, I just don't see any other way two large companies like Intel and Nokia could really have gone about this. In the end, money talks and a big PR move like this brings a lot more interest than having a pow-wow with your community.
At a minimum they could have sent us a heads up prior to posting it on their blog.
Thats all I'm saying
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2010-02-16
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#125
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I believe no entity except maemo.org itself can kill council.
I had decided to run for council again as I said mainly for transition and project continuation/closure purposes. Unless the idea of a council is utterly killed by some entity with clout, I will still do so.
Originally Posted by Texrat
I hope we don't have complete dissolution - some projects remain and some find a home at MeeGo.
There's a status quo to dissolve now and a new one to build. The former causes anxiety; the latter stimulates the creative juices.
No matter what the outcome, I'm going to stick around and try to bring closure to my (too many) pet projects. Help wind things down if nothing else. I owe that to the community that put me in the position of being part of something grand. If it had not been for that, I might not have ever seen Amsterdam (I don't get out much) and I am still glowing from that wonderful experience.
Some of those projects, like Brainstorm improvements, the Maemo User Experience Framework and even community outreach may very well have a place at the MeeGo table. I hope so, and hope to help out if nothing else.
Originally Posted by Texrat
Thank you for your work.
Bottom line I want to thank everyone here for putting up with my madness. No matter what, my goal was to help you any way I could.
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2010-02-16
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#126
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So, a very simple question then, to the Council:
- can you ask the following question from Nokia (and via them Intel/Linux Foundation):
-- Can maemo community decide to move over to meego and will Nokia help implement such move, if the decision is yes?
(I thought about a 3rd cascaded question, but it is still morning ;-) )
This would clarify the possibilities. If the answer from Nokia is "No", then we are on our own and can decide to keep maemo community as it is, or rename it to meegocommunity.org or ... If the answer is "yes" from Nokia, then we can pick to move to meego.com, too.
So, the council could help perform the first 2 steps:
- check for constraints from N/I/LF
- poll the maemo community for direction
- can you ask the following question from Nokia (and via them Intel/Linux Foundation):
-- Can maemo community decide to move over to meego and will Nokia help implement such move, if the decision is yes?
(I thought about a 3rd cascaded question, but it is still morning ;-) )
This would clarify the possibilities. If the answer from Nokia is "No", then we are on our own and can decide to keep maemo community as it is, or rename it to meegocommunity.org or ... If the answer is "yes" from Nokia, then we can pick to move to meego.com, too.
So, the council could help perform the first 2 steps:
- check for constraints from N/I/LF
- poll the maemo community for direction
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2010-02-16
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#127
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I'd like that question to be very specific. Nokia said a while ago that it was committed to the community being comprised of developers, enthusiasts and end users. I'd like to see some sort of commitment that end users are still wanted, since they don't seem to feature in the moblin landscape at all.
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2010-02-16
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy
Good point, in my head all things (news/planet, end user/power user/community member/community champion/council/developer, bug, brainstorm, testing squad, forum) is part of the community.
I'd like that question to be very specific. Nokia said a while ago that it was committed to the community being comprised of developers, enthusiasts and end users.
Very good point to clarify the meaning of community for Nokia too. Thanks.
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2010-02-16
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#129
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Produce a quote as a community member and developer about the merge.
Interesting, however I'm not sure what Valério was supposed to do with this info except sit on it.
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I think that was the initial idea, but got dismissed not sure why, probably to avoid leaks. Afaik even people working at Maemo devices and close to Nokia didn't knew about this merge, of course that's all about marketing.
Briefing the whole council would make more sense (because at least then they can discuss something useful amongst themselves), this feels more like informing for the sake of being able to say they informed (or perhaps because that was the best they were able to get).
Telling a community guy about the merge worth nothing for the community in general, but that action showed at least that they trust the people inside the community.
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2010-02-16
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#130
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy
IMHO the end users is what makes our community unique, they provide very valuable input(a lot of noise also
I'd like that question to be very specific. Nokia said a while ago that it was committed to the community being comprised of developers, enthusiasts and end users. I'd like to see some sort of commitment that end users are still wanted, since they don't seem to feature in the moblin landscape at all.
), it's a shame that some people don't see things that way.
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Just rename MeEgo to maemo and all problems are solved!