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	Benson	2008-09-03 , 15:54
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Originally Posted by caldersm

Just a few questions from a upcoming newbie.....

At my company we are using a software package called Wonderware. It has an HMI that we access through terminal Services. I want to get an N810 to access this on the go....but I have a few questions, if you could spare a minute of your time.....

1. I currently use Cisco VPN client version 4.8 on my laptop. Do you think the applications: VPN-GUI and VPNC will connect to my office VPN...? They are supposed to even pull in the .PFC files from my cisco VPN client....but I am not for certain.
2. I want to use PyRdesktop to connect to our terminal server running on windows server 2003.....will this work ok....? And will it work with the VPN software above...?

Should work fine, if the VPN works; no actual experience with NT5.2 or VPN though.

3. Now the big question.....just give me your thoughts: Our HMI software runs at a resolution of 1280x1024, so when I connect into our terminal server, if I am on a monitor that shows that resolution, then it goes full screen. But if I log into the terminal server at a resolution lower than 1280x1024, it will cut it off part of the application. So my question is: Does the Rdesktop application give you scroll bars to move around the screen if the resolution you are connecting at is lower than the application is setup to display, as the N810 is only 800x480.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: You can specify the desired resolution for the connection with the -g option on the command line; not sure if there's an option in the GUI, but if not it would be simple enough to add. Unfortunately, there are no scrollbars; it just extends beyond the N800's screen, so not real useful.

Two options still exist:

Using a command-line option, rdesktop can embed itself into a window; a wrapper with scrollbars could be made, into which it could embed itself. This would also make non-fullscreen work a touch better.
Using FVWM, you can scrollbar any window; you can also use a virtual desktop larger than the screen, so really there's two fixes. FVWM is pretty easy to get working, especially on the N810 where you don't have to muck about with making sure everything is touchscreen-operable. But it is a bit advanced, so you may not want to get in that deep.

Really, their app ought to deal with small resolutions gracefully (i.e. with its own scrollbar(s)), but I doubt you'll get that fixed easily.

My work said they would buy me one, if I was sure it would work for me in the field......so I want to make sure it should work ok, before I have them invest the money.

Cool. Hope it works out for you.

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	Bundyo	2008-09-03 , 19:34
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Originally Posted by Benson

Should work fine, if the VPN works; no actual experience with NT5.2 or VPN though.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: You can specify the desired resolution for the connection with the -g option on the command line; not sure if there's an option in the GUI, but if not it would be simple enough to add. Unfortunately, there are no scrollbars; it just extends beyond the N800's screen, so not real useful.

Two options still exist:
Using a command-line option, rdesktop can embed itself into a window; a wrapper with scrollbars could be made, into which it could embed itself. This would also make non-fullscreen work a touch better.

Using FVWM, you can scrollbar any window; you can also use a virtual desktop larger than the screen, so really there's two fixes. FVWM is pretty easy to get working, especially on the N810 where you don't have to muck about with making sure everything is touchscreen-operable. But it is a bit advanced, so you may not want to get in that deep.

Really, their app ought to deal with small resolutions gracefully (i.e. with its own scrollbar(s)), but I doubt you'll get that fixed easily.
Cool. Hope it works out for you.

Since your quota is full, here's the hostwin project source:
http://bundyo.org/maemo/hostwin.tar.bz2

Use waf configure, then just waf.

I'm not sure it will fit your needs though, since i don't embed the started application in the window.

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	Benson	2008-09-03 , 19:48
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Originally Posted by Bundyo

Since your quota is full, here's the hostwin project source:
http://bundyo.org/maemo/hostwin_src.tar.bz2

Use waf configure, then just waf.

I'm not sure it will fit your needs though, since i don't embed the started application in the window.

I think it's pretty much the same, though; I think the -X option is the same as Xephyr's -parent option, so I think it'll work.

I may or may not get anywhere with this, but I'll kick it around a little anyway.

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caldersm	2008-09-03 , 20:54
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Benson,

Thanks so much.....let me know what you find.....and then if you could explain how I need to set it up, that would be great. I do not know Linux at all, but I am starting down that path, and this will be my entry into it.

I appreciate anything you can do....

Steve

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therock_80	2008-09-03 , 21:30
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i'm using N810 diablo with pyrdesktop 1.5.0.6. I couldn't get desktop background on remote computer ( appeared as black background image).
All other menu and icon are accessible.
How can i get correct background on the remote computer ?

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	TrueJournals	2008-09-03 , 23:52
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therock_80: After doing some research, I have found the cause of this and will fix it before releasing the next version. This requires some extra work on the GUI side of things, so the next version should be released some time this weekend.

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rememberthe8bit	2008-09-06 , 12:10
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Originally Posted by TrueJournals

Oops! That would be a bug... I'll do my best to get a fix out tomorrow.

As for the 770 version, I didn't have any free time this weekend, so I'll try to get scratchbox for the 770 installed sometime this week...

I can confirm that bug too.

Keep up the good work!

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peterbird	2008-09-06 , 13:06
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Is it possible to add an option so it will not go into windowed mode when the backlight dimms or when you connect it to the charger? Rdesktop is the only app I run on the device...and would prefer to have it fullscreen all the time.

thanks,
peter

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	TrueJournals	2008-09-08 , 02:47
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Sorry everyone, but real life has gotten in the way of more development for pyRdesktop, so I'm a little behind on releases. I have a fix for the profile loading issue, but still need to do some GUI and coding work for the desktop background to show. I'll work on it as much as I can and try to get a new version out by next weekend, although I appear to have a busy schedule for next weekend too. Long story short, the next version will come out when I have enough time to finish it.

peterbird: Hmm, it's hard to say. I'm still not very comfortable with rdesktop-cli's code, and how display dimming, connecting to charger, etc. work, so this would be (for me) pretty difficult to implement. I realize that the fullscreen/unfullscreen behavior of rdesktop is just plain wrong, but I'm just not sure how to fix it. The GUI is, and always will be, top priority for me, because something like that is easy to work around. If I get a chance, I will try to play around with the code and see if I can get it to work right. But, as always, no promises.

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caldersm	2008-09-21 , 20:08
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Benson:

Did you get anywhere with testing to see if you could add the scroll bars to RDesktop application using WAF or WVFM..?

I didnt know if you had any time to test to see if it was possible.

Let me know,

Thanks,
Steve