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2009-03-31 , 13:43
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#121
Originally Posted by RobbH View Post
Don't underestimate yourself!

I stand corrected. Sjgadsby, Laughing Man and BrentDC have shown that I was wrong to assume that no one has a satisfactory out-of-the-box experience with the tablet. It's a good reminder that "no generalization is worth a damn, including this one." I think my generalizations work more often than not, but they aren't absolute rules, and I should have been clear about that.

You, on the other hand, have convincingly demonstrated the us vs. them mentality I was trying to describe and the utter contempt some of your fellow enthusiasts display toward anyone who does not entirely endorse your own peculiar fervor. I'm not going to press the "me too" button, but I should thank you for providing a perfect illustration.

Your rage seems a perfect match for the original poster's. Have you had your blood pressure checked lately?

Take care.
I honestly can't find a single point that had any relevence to the quoted text, and I'm really trying to figure it out. I'm not seeing an 'us vs. them' attitude at all, merely 'him vs. you'; so unless you feel you somehow speak for a larger audience I really can't make sense of it. Where are you reading rage into his post?

Baffling, truly.
 

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2009-03-31 , 14:34
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#122
Robb, c'mon, admit it, you're nothing more than a cherry picking button pusher. You try to manufacture negative emotions from people for sport. And that's the subtle difference between you and me: I didn't create Omega's frustrations, though it would be difficult to deny that I didn't feed off of them. But here's the kicker: I believe Omega to be an accidental troll; you sir, on the other hand, are the quintessential troll. You go girl. And thanks for the blood boil.
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2009-03-31 , 16:12
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#123
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Oh my word, yes. Prior to buying my N800, a Palm T5 with a WiFi SDIO card was my pocket web computer. Leaving a Blazer, which took an eternity to load only the first bit of average-sized web pages, rendered poorly what it did load, and locked up the entire OS every five minutes, was pure joy.
Ah, the joys of Blazer. I have the fond memories of "Flushing the DbCache" before using it, so it wouldn't lock up the whole system. And some people think MicroB is crap, Ha.

Before that, I used the Eudora web browser on a HandEra 330 with a CompactFlash WiFi card. The web was image and JavaScript free, and Google searches only worked by writing the search URL manually.
I could never get the Eudora applications working on my OS5 device, but did try. I ended up trying every single browser out there, Access's NetFront, WebPro, Universe 3, and some one that started with X, the exact name escapes me. None of them were better than Blazer, which although unbelievable, is the God's honest truth.

Are you familiar with either of the forums 1src or Brighthand? I was an active member on both (1000+ posts on each), but moved here after I ditched my TX (actually it ditched me, it ended up getting "dead spots" on the screen). I replaced the TX 6 times in 2 years (all under warranty, yes, Palm hated me), for various reasons. The big three being Digitizer Drift, Dead Spots, and ROM Corruption.

So when I hear people (like omega) complain about the N800, 'cause it's a little slow, well, that's actually quite laughable.

Sure, the N800 and N810 can, at times, be a little slow loading large, complex, web pages heavy with JavaScript, images, and Flash, but they're loading large, complex web pages heavy with JavaScript, images, and Flash. (See: Louis CK).

If only AccessoryLink.co.uk would finally fix their shopping cart (trolly?) system to allow shipping to me, I'd repair my N800 and play. However, as long as I have only one working tablet, I'm not willing to test too much. My tablet is my main personal computer, and I don't like having it unavailable for even the short time a reflash and restore takes.
Ah, why don't you clone? That is like having two devices. I do all my crazy stuff on my SD partition, and if there's ever a problem, I can always fallback to my prestine Flash partition.

With this setup, I've reflashed 3 times: When I first got the device, to upgrade from OS2007 to OS2008, then again to upgrade to Diablo, then again when I sent it to Nokia for it to be repaired (bad LCD module).

All three were completely voluntarily.
 
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#124
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
If only AccessoryLink.co.uk would finally fix their shopping cart (trolly?) system to allow shipping to me, I'd repair my N800 and play. However, as long as I have only one working tablet, I'm not willing to test too much. My tablet is my main personal computer, and I don't like having it unavailable for even the short time a reflash and restore takes.
I have to say that, having reflashed my tablet several times in the last few months, it gets easier and easier every time. Most of the apps I want are in Extras now, with much less hunting through gronmayer, obscure websites, and forum posts necessary.

And also, a good fresh flash makes everything work better again. Especially if you don't use the backup and restore function. Copy your documents to the SD card, flash the tablet, and then install everything fresh.

I was surprised at how much cruft had built up.
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Originally Posted by BrentDC View Post
Ah, why don't you clone? ...I can always fallback to my prestine Flash partition.
Unless my email, bookmarks, updates to my contact list, etc. were kept in sync across both instances, then I can't see much advantage. When I'd "fallback", I'd need to restore a backup anyway. At that point I'm well into the time it takes to reflash and restore.

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I have to say that, having reflashed my tablet several times in the last few months, it gets easier and easier every time.
I do appreciate that. I'm quite thankful for Extras.

And also, a good fresh flash makes everything work better again. Especially if you don't use the backup and restore function. Copy your documents to the SD card, flash the tablet, and then install everything fresh.
I've been carrying my data forward via backup and restore since I first got my N800. Others have had massive problems due to this somehow, but I haven't seen any of that on my tablets.

It's not for documents though. I have few of those, and what I have are on my cards already. I backup and restore to keep my bookmarks, email, contacts, and account settings. I hate setting all my email and IM accounts, and I never want to have to suffer through merging my contacts together again.
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Bookmarks: delicious.com
IM contacts: Downloaded from server when account is set up
E-Mail contacts: Don't know, don't keep them on my tablet

Entering usernames and passwords a few times isn't too big a deal, though.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Unless my email, bookmarks, updates to my contact list, etc. were kept in sync across both instances, then I can't see much advantage. When I'd "fallback", I'd need to restore a backup anyway. At that point I'm well into the time it takes to reflash and restore.
Why do you need email, bookmarks, and contacts on your experimental/testing partition?
 
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Bookmarks: delicious.com
I use it, though I'm not overly fond of it. Bookmarks aren't a main driver for backing up, really. I like to have my frequently used sites in the bookmarks menu on my tablet because it takes longer to type in URLs than it does on my desktop, but I could rebuild the list quickly if I had to.

IM contacts: Downloaded from server when account is set up
Yes, but when many of my family and friends have six or eight IM accounts each, it's too hard to keep track of who is who without merging them together under meaningful names.

I hates re-figuring out which IM names match which people, and I hates the tedious process of merging them on the tablet.

Entering usernames and passwords a few times isn't too big a deal, though.
Yes, tracking down the server settings for each of my email accounts and whatnot isn't horrible, but it's time I could better use doing something else.
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Why do you need email, bookmarks, and contacts on your experimental/testing partition?
Ah, I see where you were going. To me, that's like shutting down a production server to boot into a test/development partition though. Sure, it lessens the chance of damage to the production data, but it's taking production off-line for the duration.
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Yes, but when many of my family and friends have six or eight IM accounts each, it's too hard to keep track of who is who without merging them together under meaningful names.
The only useful view in my tablet contacts screen is "Online". If they aren't online, I don't want to see them
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