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#121
Originally Posted by Luke-Jr View Post
There's rumours of T-Mobile beginning to block all non-Hiptop IMEIs from their Hiptop PAYG plan (which is the only PAYG plan with data). I'd be interested in learning how to spoof a Hiptop IMEI in case this ever affects me...
The short answer is you will not be able to spoof your IMEI over the cellular network - as long as the network is using this number as an access control method, your only option will be to buy compatible hardware.

For sure you can modify the IMEI value in parts of the application engine (operating system), but on the cellular side, not going to happen unless you have your own chip fabrication plant : )
 
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#122
So hypothetically speaking here.

If I tried to get a phone out on contract (because I never wanted to wait until I had saved up to buy a phone on P&G which would have been outdated buy the time I had all the money together) and my credit check failed because I lost my job and car so I was black listed for anything on credit,

Then I asked my partner to get the phone for me on T-Mobile, then when I have paid the first 6 months of the contract coming from my bank account then when I ask for a "change of ownership" they say they can not do it because my credit check has still failed.

So I'm left with a phone which is in my parters name, no wait now my "EX" partners name and I'm still paying the bill because I need to use the phone to for calls/texts/internet. On day she decides to go ape sh*t at me and go "Oh I know how to pi*s him off, I'll phone T-Mobile and because he couldn't get it changed into his name I'm the account holder so I'll report it stolen" (Baring in mind that the bills have been paid from my account and the address is registered to mine too.) The she goes along and does that, I can't unblock it not being the account holder. I'm shafted really aren't I???

So if I wanted to avoid this situation from happening again for a 3rd time. How could I Mask/change/clone it to my friends N900 which he is happy for me to do (It's on Vodafone), so I could avoid being barred and not being able to use my phone when ever the "BiG bAg of crazy" decides to throw her toys out of the pram.

Just to neaten that up
Bill Payer: Me
Phone: Me
Registered Address: Mine
Account Holder (Contract): Ex

T-Mobile are aware of this I've tried may thing to get it changed. I have even challenged them writing into the the accounts department. Still They don't care so long as they are getting the money.

If no one is willing to PM me or contact me on how I could change the IMEI of my phone, is it possible that someone in here works for T-Mobile or better still have any other suggestion to try and help me out on this one. Thanks

P.S. As most of you may have gathered from that, it's a true situation that currently happening.
 
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#123
How about this. Stop paying the bill. Get a PAYG SIM from somewhere and put it on the phone.
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#124
Originally Posted by Kamen View Post
So if I wanted to avoid this situation from happening again for a 3rd time.

Just to neaten that up
Bill Payer: Me
Phone: Me
Registered Address: Mine
Account Holder (Contract): Ex
Teach your ex - stop paying bills.

But seriously - you should talk to lawyer, he can explain you that fix some injustice with avoiding law is Not Good Thing. In life there are many situations which can be resolved just jumping the law... at least for some time. What happens if your EX file the lawsuit against you because phone is listed on her? Judge, not you would decided - is you bill payment for phone service is a prove that you own a phone. In my understanding the law would be against you here, you don't own the rented car. If your partner have chance to present her point of view I suspect it would be a perfect case of your attempt of stealing her phone which she rented to you.

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#125
Originally Posted by fnordianslip View Post
How about this. Stop paying the bill. Get a PAYG SIM from somewhere and put it on the phone.
Nice way of looking at it, but your forgetting that T-Mobile can block my phone by adding my IMEI number to the National Blacklist, so when it sends off the IMSI and IMEI number It will be block on any UK network considering all the APN's around my are UK lol. I thought of it myself but then I'd be cause more hassle.


Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
Teach your ex - stop paying bills.

But seriously - you should talk to lawyer, he can explain you that fix some injustice with avoiding law is Not Good Thing. In life there are many situations which can be resolved just jumping the law... at least for some time. What happens if your EX file the lawsuit against you because phone is listed on her? Judge, not you would decided - is you bill payment for phone service is a prove that you own a phone. In my understanding the law would be against you here, you don't own the rented car. If your partner have chance to present her point of view I suspect it would be a perfect case of your attempt of stealing her phone which she rented to you.
Humm never really looked at it like that I suppose, well I may play the dirty and make sure I don@t pay on time just to muddy up her credit lol.

& Hope fully instead of T-Mobile saying "we're not interested. We got the money coming in" it will be the case of "Danm, we ain't getting paid, we should review the account holder and find out whats happening." Either way a IMEI cloner would be great.

Thanks for the suggestions.
 
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#126
The thread about using additional frequencies with the FM transmitter not only explains how to do somthing that is illegal in many countries but actually provides links to binaries to achieve that goal, and yet no one has asked that thread to be closed nor anything, why is it different here?

I'm not condoning the purchase of stolen goods, i'm just trying to understand the (apparent) double standard.
 
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#127
you have a nokia n900, aka RX-51
it is built on the nokia bb5 (base band 5) platform
it contains security known as sl3 (sim lock 3)

I see the products "dm3" and "atf" (advance turbo flasher) advertise support for this device. i don't know if they would actually do an "IMEI repair", however.

they cost hundreds of dollars, more than a new phone, but perhaps you can find a store advertising "IMEI repair" that have this equipment available. or just contact the manufacturer of those products. they like to advertise all over the internet, i'm sure you can figure it out.


Originally Posted by TiagoTiago View Post
The thread about using additional frequencies with the FM transmitter not only explains how to do somthing that is illegal in many countries but actually provides links to binaries to achieve that goal, and yet no one has asked that thread to be closed nor anything, why is it different here?

I'm not condoning the purchase of stolen goods, i'm just trying to understand the (apparent) double standard.
it's silly to compare the two, it is not a double standard.
which one do you think would cause more problems -- a million cloned cellphones, or a million radios transmitting at a slightly higher power level or wrong frequency.

a cloned cellphone is more likely to be linked to crime, benefiting criminals, and causing problems for other users of the network.

a bad radio isn't going to do anything unless someone 20ft away is trying to use that frequency for something else.

plus, the imei is logged by your network. they probably won't do anything, but how safe can you be? all they have to do is send the cops after you to check if the sticker on your phone matches.

oh yeah, why don't you just sell your phone to someone in the USA or Canada? apparently the providers over here are too damn stupid and lazy to pay any attention to your list of bad IMEIs. they can only handle blocking phones on their own networks...

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#128
Wouldn't it just be easier if you did what every other law abiding citizen did?

Keep your damn @ss out of trouble.
 
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#129
Guys,

I am in a situation...... i got ganged up by a bunch of guys and got beaten up real bad and they took my iphone 32GB!!! this is pure injustice and the police in uk will not find them.

i am planning to take things in my own hand. i got insurance on it the following day however if i give the insurance company my imei number then they will see i reported it stolen the day before i took out the insurance

my plan...i got a cuz in ny. could i claim i lost my phone and give his imei number??? would the brits b able to track it and get me done for fraud???

this is just an idea and I emphasise I am not planning to do this for legal reasons
 
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#130
I think they'd be suspicious enough with you just having bought the insurance, oh and look a few days (or even weeks) later it gets stolen.. hmmm. You could just give up and accept **** happens; get a new phone and be more careful with it/yourself - oh, and put the security codes on it (both the phone and the sim card if you're paranoid).

Hope you didn't have any lasting damage from their attack. Did you report the attack to the police? I believe most insurance (in UK at least and many other countries) will want you to report the theft to the police before they'll accept the insurance claim.
 
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