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2010-01-03
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#122
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Originally Posted by mysticrokks
Because some other people you want to communicate with have other phones. They don't do email, don't do IM, don't have a data plan, live in the middle of nowhere, don't even have internet at home, can't read text on a phone screen but can see a picture, etc.
surely this is one of the reasons we have phones like these..
i honestly dont understand why people are still banging on about mms and stuff that own this phone..i dont understand why you would want this phone in the first place.
Seriously, how else are you going to send a picture to grandma who is dirt poor and has a basic cheap phone on the basic $10/month package with insert-operator-with-no-3G-coverage-here? (Bear in mind MMS are free to recieve in many countries).
I honestly don't understand how anyone could not get this. Do you only communicate with people like yourself? Do you assume that because you have an email-capable, IM-capable phone that magically everyone you communicate with does too? Or do you discard friends who don't because they're not modern enough for you? Perhaps you just never talk to such people in the first place?
Or maybe you're real generous and you buy everyone you know an N900 and put their data bill on your credit card?
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
From a marketing point of view it is more complicated. More units sold means better support from Nokia (more updates, better software and a longer lasting N900 and Maemo 5). MMS is not the most important feature, but NOT having MMS is a big turn-down vs iPhone/Android/WM, well everything else.
All I know is I've used it.. and it's a nice feature to have. :shrug:.
Does it really have to be more complicated than that?
This wasn't all that complicated either
Marketing vise, not having a feature that is considered a standard form of communication in a communication device, that is stupid.
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy
i agree that mms is fine to have, but resources are not unlimmited for nokia, so i really hope the fix bugs (ofcourse) but als improve enhance first a lot of other things before they look at mms... reading this thread i see that mms is not really simple to implement anyway!
What part of 'This is a useful feature for Joe Public, it would be good to have it' don't you get? I chose the n900 knowing full well that it was missing this feature (unlike the poor souls who apparently were told by Amazon US that it did before they ordered!) I'm not jumping up and down demanding it. I'm seeing the value for many use-cases, and waiting, calmly and patiently for someone to develop it.
Originally Posted by RevdKathy
ahh so you never take a vacation
But neither am I saying "people shouldn't waste effort on this because I don't want it." You know what? No-one should make any effort whatsoever to improve Ovi maps or the GPS experience. And voice-turn-by-turn is a complete waste of space. Everyone should live in a place where they can find their way around and be able to read a paper map, just like I do. Who needs GPS? I don't!
See... that's how it sounds.
i pitty you!
in my normal day to day live i dont need it either, but theree are other days like today that i have to be somewhere in amsterdam with my car (amsterdam is not my home town)
because of the shitty navigation i have to do it the old way of printing out google maps directions...
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2010-01-03
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#125
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Originally Posted by mysticrokks
If you don't understand other people's need then maybe you should just shut up and stop telling them how to spend their own money.
email and im are my primary tools for communication..
off course these plus skype are gonna be getting more and more used..
surely this is one of the reasons we have phones like these..
i honestly dont understand why people are still banging on about mms and stuff that own this phone..i dont understand why you would want this phone in the first place.
Why you think that people who find mms useful should buy competitors phones? Thats called bad business. I surely want customers/users as much as possible to this community.
And argument that implementing mms is time away from other important issues is bit loose. Probably there is different team for all the programs. We do not know how many people are working on this so arguing that time is away from more important stuff (for you at least) is just waste of time.
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2010-01-03
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slender people shouldnt own this phone, if they want to bang on about lack of mms..
there are much better phones out there for them..
android or iphones..
people that use this phone for its functionality come up wioth real improvements THAT ARE NEEDED..
there are much better phones out there for them..
android or iphones..
people that use this phone for its functionality come up wioth real improvements THAT ARE NEEDED..
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2010-01-03
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#127
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and do you seem to think i own nokias shares or something..
lol
like i have any loyalty- show me the best phone at the time for me- and i will buy it- brand loyality- like i give a monkeys. i just give real advice not biases in any shhape or form
lol
like i have any loyalty- show me the best phone at the time for me- and i will buy it- brand loyality- like i give a monkeys. i just give real advice not biases in any shhape or form
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by bsving
I don't think it's marketing but economical. I think nokia was in hurry to launch the N900, they were so late I think the software was not ready already to be launched but they had to launch it anyway so that's why it's not polished as we expect it. (no mms, no portrait mode, email client with the minimal options, no call history, no office viewer, OVI store not ready, OVI suite that don't even recognize the N900, no way to sort the icons of applications installed or to organize them in folder, and I don't even speak of the numerous bugs)
From a marketing point of view it is more complicated. More units sold means better support from Nokia (more updates, better software and a longer lasting N900 and Maemo 5). MMS is not the most important feature, but NOT having MMS is a big turn-down vs iPhone/Android/WM, well everything else.
This wasn't all that complicated either
But had they choice ? The N900 is a sort of 'last chance' phone, they couldn't afford to delay the launch again of 3 or 4 months and miss Xmas...
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2010-01-03
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Let me tell you a secret. Some of the most valuable and important people in my life that I want to communicate don't own a computer. So streaming stuff to the web is not a means of communicating with them. Neither is skype. Nor MMS. Nor IRC. Not email. Nor forums. Nor social networking sites.
But they do have a mobile phone... and it can recieve MMS.
Outside the UK, I have this strange thing called 'a tongue in my head'. If i get lost, I ask. Try it some time, you might find you like it. It's amazing how people like being helpful if you ask politely!
As for you owning shares, we assumed you did since you seem to expect Nokia's priorities for development to exactly mirror your own. What anyone else wants/needs is obviously completely irrelevent. So it was kind of a given that you owned a controlling share in the company.
But they do have a mobile phone... and it can recieve MMS.
Originally Posted by jcompagner
Oh I take holidays. In the UK I carry something called an Ordinance Survey map which I was taught to read long ago. It needs no batteries, never crashes, doesn't require a charger and doesn't struggle to get a fix in places without a GPRS connection.
ahh so you never take a vacation
i pitty you!
in my normal day to day live i dont need it either, but theree are other days like today that i have to be somewhere in amsterdam with my car (amsterdam is not my home town)
because of the shitty navigation i have to do it the old way of printing out google maps directions...
Outside the UK, I have this strange thing called 'a tongue in my head'. If i get lost, I ask. Try it some time, you might find you like it. It's amazing how people like being helpful if you ask politely!
Originally Posted by mysticrokks
That's ok, then. I'm not slender.
slender people shouldnt own this phone, if they want to bang on about lack of mms..
there are much better phones out there for them..
android or iphones..
people that use this phone for its functionality come up wioth real improvements THAT ARE NEEDED..
As for you owning shares, we assumed you did since you seem to expect Nokia's priorities for development to exactly mirror your own. What anyone else wants/needs is obviously completely irrelevent. So it was kind of a given that you owned a controlling share in the company.
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy
hehehe... Go Kathy
Let me tell you a secret. Some of the most valuable and important people in my life that I want to communicate don't own a computer. So streaming stuff to the web is not a means of communicating with them. Neither is skype. Nor MMS. Nor IRC. Not email. Nor forums. Nor social networking sites.
But they do have a mobile phone... and it can recieve MMS.
Oh I take holidays. In the UK I carry something called an Ordinance Survey map which I was taught to read long ago. It needs no batteries, never crashes, doesn't require a charger and doesn't struggle to get a fix in places without a GPRS connection.
Outside the UK, I have this strange thing called 'a tongue in my head'. If i get lost, I ask. Try it some time, you might find you like it. It's amazing how people like being helpful if you ask politely!
That's ok, then. I'm not slender.
As for you owning shares, we assumed you did since you seem to expect Nokia's priorities for development to exactly mirror your own. What anyone else wants/needs is obviously completely irrelevent. So it was kind of a given that you owned a controlling share in the company.
Still don't get this whole arugment/conversation etc....
Some people want MMS
Some people do not want MMS
(Some are trying to say that needing/not needing MMS is more important then Not needing/needing - which is irrelevant)
It has been requested, There is a brainstorm, and it is being added.
So surely the people who want it should be happy, and the people who don't should now just be quiet?
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its about me chatting to people at any time through IM, its about recieving my email's and sending them, its about having a mobile phone, its about having mobile skype, its about having txt messages, its about being able to psot on forums, and social netwaorking sites..
the above are the reasons i own a n900..
mms wtf..
oh yes thats the one i need isnt it- sorry you are right ...