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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
you should really not listen to my wife and kids. I have worked very hard to breach a notch above suck.
So Texrat.... You apparently suck
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by EmmaGx
What, you? You're in. By virtue of your superior ability to, uh, be here. Anyway, welcome. Here's your accordion.
... at the moment I feel like there's someone at the gates of maemo with an imaginary checklist waiting to see if I pass and can gain entry into the community!
Your only test is linking your Talk.maemo.org account to your maemo.org profile. That one can be a doozy. Please give a shout should you run into trouble. Not that I have any ability to fix anything on the maemo.org profile side, mind you, but I can scratch my head and mutter a bit.
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2010-01-23
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#124
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Originally Posted by Texrat
... well, firstly, nobody has ever said "welcome" to me ... at least not that I'm aware of ... and that may well be my fault for not posting in the newbie thread (I'm bad, I've never once posted in a newbie thread!) but it doesn't hurt for people to acknowledge people with low post numbers out there in the regular bits of the forum ...
I take it personal because:
- I'm on the council
- I bust my hump on community relations (Maemo Greeters, community outreach, herding threads here, etc)
- I am constantly greeting (by Thanks) newcomers in the "say hello" thread.
But yeah, it certainly isn't all about me, and I'm not the only one embracing eager newcomers. The numerous Maemo Greeters are doing a bang up job IMO... among many, many others.
With all of the overtures we senior "staff" and others make toward people like yourself, I'm still flummoxed by your statements. Honestly: what more do we need to do? What more can we do? Are we just not progressing fast enough? far enough?
... secondly it's blooming scary trying to get involved in brainstorming, bugzilla, voting for suggestions, testing etc ... maybe I just haven't found the messages explaining any of them yet, but I really have no idea how to contribute to those without making a complete hash of it all ... are you trying to get people involved and am I just missing it all? Or is it just too stupidly hard to expect newbies to get involved?
... and thirdly at least when the n900 was first released, there was an assumption of knowledge that made a lot of posts by those trying to be really helpful completely useless for me coming from a numpty level of maemo style knowledge ... again, I should probably have made it clearer that I needed more complete instructions, but that assumption of knowledge made it hard for me to feel like anything but a complete fool with a phone that I was/am never going to understand ...
I don't think it's really a question of literally welcoming newbies (although that certainly doesn't hurt!) ... for me it's more a kind of bridging that's needed to ease me and other newbies into becoming a productive member of the community ... maybe it's just me missing it, maybe none of the other newbies care, but since you're after more productive community members to ease the burden of inane newbie questions maybe it is something that you want to address ...
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2010-01-23
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#125
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Trust him on that. Oh, and he also has a fondness for trench coats. Yeah, yeah, he calls it a "duster"... but I know crazy when I see it.
Not that I have any ability to fix anything on the maemo.org profile side, mind you, but I can scratch my head and mutter a bit.
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by EmmaGx
I'm still trying to figure out what you're after. Random welcomes due simply to a low post count? I'm betting most assume you went through the "say hello" gate and got a greeting. No excuse, but please don't take that omission as a slight. There are a LOT of new people streaming in.
... well, firstly, nobody has ever said "welcome" to me ... at least not that I'm aware of ... and that may well be my fault for not posting in the newbie thread (I'm bad, I've never once posted in a newbie thread!) but it doesn't hurt for people to acknowledge people with low post numbers out there in the regular bits of the forum ...
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2010-01-23
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#127
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Originally Posted by Texrat
If I'm reading her (him, it, them... Emma) correctly I think the problem is centered around what is already in the works. A good document and design to get new users started... some form of flow chart/diagram/tour of Maemo and the different components. What each thing is for, why we have them, etc.
I'm still trying to figure out what you're after. Random welcomes due simply to a low post count? I'm betting most assume you went through the "say hello" gate and got a greeting. No excuse, but please don't take that omission as a slight. There are a LOT of new people streaming in.
Some easy way of getting users familiar with the different parts of the community so when they read posts by people like me it doesn't float over their head with all the acronyms and references to fanciful tools that they've never heard of.
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
*grins* ... see, I didn't know what I was picking at when I started this ... you on the other hand are just mean pointing out the poor boy's faults!
Well, the point is Texrat spends a lot of energy trying to help make people like feel welcomed. So if you are not feeling welcome - then there is a breakdown somewhere and I can see Tex taking that personally.
What he does is directly related to how you feel, as what he does (or evidently, what he tries to do) is to make you feel welcome.
So Texrat.... You apparently suck
... I guess my thoughts on the matter are a bigger revelation than I thought they'd be ... it does seem to me however that you want helpful new community members, but aren't getting them in the numbers you'd like/are expecting ... so maybe something is going wrong somewhere, whether that's the problems I'm feeling or not is another question ...
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by EmmaGx
Oh I know it
you on the other hand are just mean pointing out the poor boy's faults!
. But it's ok... My mommy says I'm speshul 
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2010-01-23
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Originally Posted by Texrat
... well ... reading to the bottom of my admitedly long post would have been a start ...
I'm still trying to figure out what you're after. Random welcomes due simply to a low post count? I'm betting most assume you went through the "say hello" gate and got a greeting. No excuse, but please don't take that omission as a slight. There are a LOT of new people streaming in.
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... at the moment I feel like there's someone at the gates of maemo with an imaginary checklist waiting to see if I pass and can gain entry into the community! ... and yes, I know, that's stupid, and you're all lovely people, and one the n900 insanity passes things will be lovely again! ... thanks for making me giggle!