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2010-02-28
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maybe i just think to easy but why not keep repo's keep everything, users can just apt get everything but then the software is just in shareware or demo mode? and only if you pay through ovi, ovi wil inject a serial number in the software based on imei?
the payed software just have to implement some interface so that ovi store knows what todo when its getting payed.
ofcourse this is crackable but what isnt in the end.?
for most normal users this will mean they cant just copy.
the payed software just have to implement some interface so that ovi store knows what todo when its getting payed.
ofcourse this is crackable but what isnt in the end.?
for most normal users this will mean they cant just copy.
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2010-02-28
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Originally Posted by benny1967
Ah, I wasn't aware of this change and judging by the comments on this thread, many others don't either.
Wrong. With the new firmware, debs show up with the debian-icon in the file manager. One single tap on the deb-file (as normal user, of course, not root) will open the application manager and install the file.
10x easier than it was with red pill mode. And they removed red pill mode because they said users shouldn't easily be able to install applications that aren't in a proper repository.
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2010-02-28
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tuminoid: As Benny said, it is easy to install debs now - which is a good thing, although I completely agree with you. The best thing would be a personal repository with only the applications you have paid for available.
I believe most users would pay just for the convenience of not having to hassle with anything more advanced than the app manager, and to get on-the-fly updates of their apps. With stand-alone debs the latter is a huge issue in terms of security updates (although I don't believe that games like Angry Birds exposes the biggest security holes - except for the one where all the pigs hacked my phone after I finished level 16, but thats another story
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I hope they are working on a repository solution. That would be awesome!
I believe most users would pay just for the convenience of not having to hassle with anything more advanced than the app manager, and to get on-the-fly updates of their apps. With stand-alone debs the latter is a huge issue in terms of security updates (although I don't believe that games like Angry Birds exposes the biggest security holes - except for the one where all the pigs hacked my phone after I finished level 16, but thats another story
)I hope they are working on a repository solution. That would be awesome!
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2010-02-28
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Originally Posted by MohammadAG
DRM doesn't work. DRM has never worked. DRM can never work. DRM will never work.
I'm sure it was pulled down for other reasons, one being the fact that the deb can be uploaded by anyone and everyone on the internet can install it.
When did people start assuming that everything has to have DRM, and that having it helps at all? It's perfectly possible to sell software with no DRM and do well with it - you're still going to get copyright infringement, but, given the speed with which DRM always gets cracked, not necessarily any more than you would otherwise. Meanwhile you avoid pissing off a large chunk of your would-be customers with pointless arbitrary restrictions, and quite possibly selling more stuff in the first place.
On another note; has anyone tried installing a non-repository hosted .deb from OVI, backing up their device, reflashing it, and restoring? AIUI the backup system reinstalls apps by re-installing them from the repositiories - does something delivered this way survive the process?
Last edited by ewan; 2010-03-01 at 02:05.
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2010-02-28
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Originally Posted by ewan
It survives as a deb package on your eMMC, you need to manually reinstall it again.
On another note; has anyone tried installing a non-repository hosted .deb from OVI, backing up their device, reflashing it, and restoring? AIUI the backup system reinstalls apps by re-installing them from the repositiories - does something delivered this way survive the process?
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2010-02-28
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Well, it's already spread on wares sites...I guess Rovio won't be too happy about that 
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2010-02-28
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Originally Posted by Arif
The Angry Birds for iPhone is out for ages... (warez)
Well, it's already spread on wares sites...I guess Rovio won't be too happy about that
So..... Why would they suddenly be "mad" at the N900 users?
There are still many people who will buy it. Including me.
I really like this game!
oh btw, Arif.. aren't you the one that promotes warez?..
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...02-27T00:45:13
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2010-02-28
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But isn't the angry birds iphone app much more popular than the n900 one?
it is going to be be hard to even find the level pack for n900 on warez sites because probably no one will bother uploading it.
it is going to be be hard to even find the level pack for n900 on warez sites because probably no one will bother uploading it.
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2010-02-28
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Originally Posted by HtheB
Haha, yeah that's me.
The Angry Birds for iPhone is out for ages... (warez)
So..... Why would they suddenly be "mad" at the N900 users?
There are still many people who will buy it. Including me.
I really like this game!
oh btw, Arif.. aren't you the one that promotes warez?..
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...02-27T00:45:13
But no I don't promote warez
And especially not something cheap as this
10x easier than it was with red pill mode. And they removed red pill mode because they said users shouldn't easily be able to install applications that aren't in a proper repository.