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2010-06-16
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#122
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Originally Posted by wmarone
You sound like they impose DRM for the sake of DRM.
That -is- the fundamental assumption with DRM. You are a criminal, tried and convicted by the vendor of your device, and must be imprisoned appropriately. With DRM, the customer is the enemy and is treated accordingly.
Are you kidding me ? Use a little common sense.
They impose DRM not to piss off the users or for principles, its becuase it makes the platform a selling point for the PRODUCERS of the DRMed content, whether that be an APP or any other media content.
And judging by the range of apps and content available on the iPhone platform, I would say they have succeeded extraordinarily well.
Put down the bong pipe of "principles" and come back to the real world and FOLLOW THE MONEY. They do it because they want the content to sell for $$$, not because of some meglomaniac decison by Jobs or Hollywood. Remember before digital tech became widespread there WAS no super restrictive DRM. DRM arose in response to digital copying tech becoming available.
If you have to blame anyone its the content PRODUCERs for the platform, not the platform itself.
Note this is a separate issue from whether DRM works or is counterproductive and pisses off users. Remember that DRM COSTS money to implement and maintain, and if content producers can MAKE MORE money without DRM (i.e. DRM costs more to implement then it brings in), well why would they keep DRM ? its an extra drain on profits.
Companies are out to MAKE MONEY, any other consideration is irrelevant, I find discussions of "princples" or assertions of meglomaniac CEOs hilarious.
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2010-06-17
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#124
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster
If you have issues with iTunes then the iPhone is not for you. Jobs is never going to change that. The iPhone has clearly stated its market yet a lot of folk from different markets keep dog piling on it.
Ok I understand if you iTunes but what I want to use something else with other cellphone manufacturers they offer there own desktop suite doesn't mean you need to use example Blackberries Blackberry Desktop suite and Sony Ericsson has Media Go but you don't have to use them! You can just drap and drop files on a Blackberry or Sony Ericsson you just put everything in the right directories. Actually there are many iPhone themes that you can get but your device must be jailbroken hell even my PSP or PS3 lets me change the theme without hacking. Well I'm not an iPhone developer but I don't need to be one to criticize there policies many who aren't iPhone developers has criticized Apple developer policies. As for Ovi Store Nokia has there own set of problems. iPhone os 4 multitasking is limited freezing and savestating apps in the background. It isn't full multitasking. See what I'm getting at here. Also I'm not Nokia fanboy I'm just saying what is true.
It's like saying the Kin is a terrible phone compared to the n900. The iPhone is a mass market phone and most people use iTunes and would rather not drag and drop. Why? Using iTunes is probably the easiest/simplest way to transfer music.
As for multitasking, iPhone user complained music streaming services (like Pandora) and IMs didn't work in the background. Now they do. That is what iPhone users wanted and that is what they got.
On another note, while I love multitasking on the n900 sometimes it makes the n900 hard to use. Doing something else while updating software is a pain in the butt. You might as well be patient and let it finish.
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2010-06-17
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#125
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster
This is bs. Jalilbreaking an iPhone takes less than 2 minutes and has about the same amount of risk to flashing an N900. You can restore the original firmware for warranty purposes and even if it's bricked, you can toss it back to Apple for a one-to-one replacement with a brand new unit (within its warranty period).
Don't tell me to jailbrake alright that voids the warranty, is illegal, and can possibly brick your device.
As for legality, tell me that 100% of content on your current machines are legal. Or if soft & unenforced 'legal boundaries' such as what we're talking about here have stopped you a second or made you care in the past
@Nosa101: IMs work in the background now? I thought they still use push notification like before.
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2010-06-17
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#126
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Originally Posted by nosa101
bollocks. File managers are the easiest way to transfer files.
... Why? Using iTunes is probably the easiest/simplest way to transfer music...
I got an iPod shuffle as a gift, and after dropping a few songs on it wanted to try it out -- only to discover simply copying the files didn't work. Took me 15 minutes of browsing to discover a tiny console application that is capable of generating the database; copied it onto the device and ever since I have had no problems. iTunes... : pukes:
Had an idiot boss a few years back, who would open a word doc in Word and save it to another location from the file menu in order to create a copy. Many people are still like that, have no basic computer literacy, hence statements as the above quoted...
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2010-06-17
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#127
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I agree that file managers are the simplest way to transfer files (to PMP).. but I'd argue that iTunes (or other comparable media managers) are the simplest way to sync and manage your media library.
Of course if you don't need the extra functionalities that they offer then might as well stick with file managers. Many regular users seem to outgrow the file managers though.
Of course if you don't need the extra functionalities that they offer then might as well stick with file managers. Many regular users seem to outgrow the file managers though.
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2010-06-17
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#128
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Originally Posted by ysss
Yeah. You get notified when someone replies you and you are on a different app. Switching to another app also doesn't log you off like before
@Nosa101: IMs work in the background now? I thought they still use push notification like before.
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2010-06-17
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#129
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Originally Posted by Sopwith
You plug you ipod in and it syncs with your music on itunes. Simples
bollocks. File managers are the easiest way to transfer files.
I got an iPod shuffle as a gift, and after dropping a few songs on it wanted to try it out -- only to discover simply copying the files didn't work. Took me 15 minutes of browsing to discover a tiny console application that is capable of generating the database; copied it onto the device and ever since I have had no problems. iTunes... : pukes:
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2010-06-17
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#130
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Originally Posted by nosa101
If I'm not mistaken IM clients still work similar to how they are on OS3.x. When you minimize the app, you get updates through push notification and the IM app doesn't maintain continuous connection to the server. When you switch back to the IM app, then it'll reestablish connection and download all the updates that you've missed.
Yeah. You get notified when someone replies you and you are on a different app. Switching to another app also doesn't log you off like before
There'll be speed increase when switching in/out of IM apps due to them not needing to be initialized everytime you run them, but there'll still be a pause as it reconnects to the server-side daemons and downloads all the missed messages.
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