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2010-08-27
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thetree, stop.
youre wrong, and heres why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvA6aI5eiAI
all of your stupid assumptions and prejudices, alleviated. stop proclaiming capacitive is better, thats a ****ing myth perpetrated by apple. it wasnt the tech behind the screen it was the software running it. i dont need a toy, when the res is as high as what is on the n900. i want to click teeny tiny links in a full web browser. notice that the interface for cap tech devices have icons the size of stewies head ... id prefer precision and accuracy.
youre wrong, and heres why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvA6aI5eiAI
all of your stupid assumptions and prejudices, alleviated. stop proclaiming capacitive is better, thats a ****ing myth perpetrated by apple. it wasnt the tech behind the screen it was the software running it. i dont need a toy, when the res is as high as what is on the n900. i want to click teeny tiny links in a full web browser. notice that the interface for cap tech devices have icons the size of stewies head ... id prefer precision and accuracy.
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2010-08-27
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I also prefer resistive over capacitive and I'm using TS devices for more than 10 years now. At the beginning I was excited about capacitive but it simply is not productive as resistive one.
And also, the fact that a lot of people complain about stylus because two hands are needed and at the same time they praise multi touch is beyond me.
And also, the fact that a lot of people complain about stylus because two hands are needed and at the same time they praise multi touch is beyond me.
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2010-08-27
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Originally Posted by shady
Oh, hey, I've linked to Stantum's work before on this forum:
thetree, stop.
youre wrong, and heres why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvA6aI5eiAI
Originally Posted by TheTree
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/s...type-hands-on/
Originally Posted by shady
What actually needs to happen is for you, fms, and quite a few other people in the world to get over the fact that the thing that works best for them, does not necessarily work best for everyone. You may prefer not having to zoom to hit small links. Other people might prefer being able to use their phone with one hand. And it is possible, and pretty simple, to use pinch gestures with one hand while holding the device with that hand. Sure, it's also possible to use a hold a device and manipulate a stylus with one hand, but no where near as easy.
all of your stupid assumptions and prejudices, alleviated. stop proclaiming capacitive is better, thats a ****ing myth perpetrated by apple. it wasnt the tech behind the screen it was the software running it. i dont need a toy, when the res is as high as what is on the n900. i want to click teeny tiny links in a full web browser. notice that the interface for cap tech devices have icons the size of stewies head ... id prefer precision and accuracy.
Originally Posted by fms
I have. I rarely wear gloves doing the winter unless I'm working with snow (shoveling, snowballs, etc).
Have you tried this at -15oC, with wind? Do try, and keep 'em off for 10 minutes or so.
Originally Posted by fms
No, I have not used an N900. But I never said that it had a crappy touch screen.
So, have you got a chance to compare [apparently crappy] N900 touchscreen with the [apparently advanced] iPod touchscreen? Because I have, and aside from being able to use nails on the N900 they are not that much different in operation.
Originally Posted by TheTree
I explicitly said that most, but not all resistive touch screens are crappy because I know that good ones exist. The N810 has an excellent one and I would be surprised if the N900's was worse. And just so you understand, I would by far prefer to have an N900 than an iPhone. So please stop assuming that I am calling the N900 a piece of crap.
Add in that most (not all) resistive touch screens have poor sensitivity, low accuracy, and are single touch,
Originally Posted by benny1967
That is the statement I was originally responding to. My understanding of that statement, given the context in which it was made, was that phones optimized for finger use are "for people who have no education." If that is the case, then I am extremely curious as to why a stylus optimized phone is necessary to perform open-heart surgery. I'm quite sure that all the doctors at my local veterinary clinic would take offense at being called uneducated, just because they use iPhones and Android phones. And don't go claiming that tech illiteracy is what was meant by uneducated and expect me to take that as a well thought out argument.
phones are no longer made for end users. they're designed for people who have no education
Last edited by TheTree; 2010-08-28 at 17:44. Reason: fix quote
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2010-08-27
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The N9 photos are sooo sexy would probably still buy it if it had the same tech specs as the N900! The Alluminum body, tilt screen, 4in. capacitive screen and chiclet keyboard are already great improvements!
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2010-08-27
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N900 touchscreen is leaps better than N810 and N800 touchscreen imo..
Had the opportunity to test a Nokia C6 today. I wasn't able to tell what technology it was until the owner tried touching the screen with a plastic tube and it worked :-) Seems Nokia has with N900 and onwards perfected touchscreen sensitivity and accuracy, so it would be typical nokia strategy to throw it away and start anew and switch tech to something they don't know how to make accurate yet ;-)
Had the opportunity to test a Nokia C6 today. I wasn't able to tell what technology it was until the owner tried touching the screen with a plastic tube and it worked :-) Seems Nokia has with N900 and onwards perfected touchscreen sensitivity and accuracy, so it would be typical nokia strategy to throw it away and start anew and switch tech to something they don't know how to make accurate yet ;-)
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2010-08-28
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Originally Posted by TheTree
Internet Discussion Rule #1: Stop associating yourself with "everyone", you are not.
What actually needs to happen is for you, fms, and quite a few other people in the world to get over the fact that the thing that works best for them, does not necessarily work best for everyone.
Sure, it's also possible to use a hold a device and manipulate a stylus with one hand, but no where near as easy.
No, I have not used an N900. But I never said that it had a crappy touch screen. Add in that most (not all) resistive touch screens have poor sensitivity, low accuracy, and are single touch,
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2010-08-28
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Nokia and Sony Ericsson are the hands down hardware champs of the cellular device industry. Whatever ground that was lost by Nokia by not jumping on the "smartphone" bandwagon should be completely regained with the release of the N8 & N9. The screen on the N900 already has great resolution and sunlight legibility and that was released last year. I expect nothing but the best hardware for Nokia's flagship. 
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2010-08-28
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Originally Posted by fms
I confused, when did I say I was everyone?
Internet Discussion Rule #1: Stop associating yourself with "everyone", you are not.
Originally Posted by fms
I agree with you on that point. I made that comment because of these two:
Resistive touch screens (at least the N900 one) can be easily manipulated with fingers. The stylus is strictly optional.
Originally Posted by shady
id prefer precision and accuracy.
Originally Posted by kinggo
And also, the fact that a lot of people complain about stylus because two hands are needed and at the same time they praise multi touch is beyond me.
Originally Posted by fms
Hmm, the "Add in..." sentence was supposed to be a quote from a previous statement I made, in which I was discussing modern phones in general. I did not intend to imply that the N9 should have capacitive or resistive. Sorry about the confusion, it should be fixed now.
Good. Then what the hell are you arguing about here? Are you trying to "prove" to someone that having capacitive touchscreen in the upcoming Meego device is better than having resistive touch screen based on the fact that "most" resistive touch screens are shite? Well, Nokia resistive touch screens are hardly much worse than its capacitive screens, and we are discussing Nokia hardware here, so what is your point?
To be clear, this:
Originally Posted by benny1967
is what I was originally responding to. That post was in itself a reply to the complaint of a possible capacitive touch screen in the N9 and therefore the loss of stylus use. As far as I'm concerned, that's a valid complaint, especially since rash.m2k seems to want/need Easy Debian. I don't really care if the N9 has capacitive or resistive, as long as its a decent quality touch sensor (being N series I'd be surprised if it wasn't) I'd probably want the device anyway. Although it would be great if it had infrared.
phones are no longer made for end users. they're designed for people who have no education,
Anyway, I'm still not entirely sure why the average doctor/lawyer/(insert highly educated non-IT job here) would need to run Debian on his/her phone. Perhaps benny1967 could enlighten me?
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2010-09-03
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Don't assume the typical resistive screen is anywhere near the N900. Go get a samsung jet, just try to drag a widget from the bar to the desktop. It requires so much pressure that you miss most of the time. Such are the resistive screens that have caused the capacitive craze. Plus the reason that resistive screen makers don't make use of the advantages, and are just trying to imitate the iphone ui on a resistive screen. Lame.
We just need to be loud enough to nokia, maybe they hear us and use a multitouch, pressure sensitive resistive screen (or a hybrid even better) with different response to finger and stylus (like the n810) on the next tablet.
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Last edited by qwazix; 2011-08-21 at 10:40.
We just need to be loud enough to nokia, maybe they hear us and use a multitouch, pressure sensitive resistive screen (or a hybrid even better) with different response to finger and stylus (like the n810) on the next tablet.
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Last edited by qwazix; 2011-08-21 at 10:40.
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