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2010-10-12 , 21:11
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Originally Posted by TiagoTiago View Post
Many windows installers got a command line option for "unattended mode"..... *pouts*
please, dont go off-topic
 
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2010-10-12 , 21:15
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Why the stuff that goes on with package managers wasn't just regular regular installers running in unattended mode?
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2010-10-12 , 21:25
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#123
This one-man whine fest is going to go in circles forever. It is like explaining to a small child, and they repeatedly ask why after each answer. Eventually you have to say 'because it just f'ing does'
 

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2010-10-12 , 21:26
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#124
Originally Posted by TiagoTiago View Post
Why the stuff that goes on with package managers wasn't just regular regular installers running in unattended mode?
Many. For a start, "unattended mode" is hardly standarised; you'll quickly find that implementing a package manager over random third party installers quickly requires human intervention -- as the many "win-apt"-like projects found (which tried to implement "windows" package managers).

Either way I do agree with clasificado. I didn't get your point here.
 
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2010-10-12 , 21:30
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#125
They can all standardize the packaging stuff, why not the installer system?



@jflatt: indeed we've been around in a few aspects, but i've been learning a lot with what some people say here (also a few things make lots of sense once they've been pointed out for me, not necessarily new information, but presented in a way that makes things fit together in my head)
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2010-10-12 , 21:37
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#126
Originally Posted by TiagoTiago View Post
They can all standardize the packaging stuff, why not the installer system?
It would require all third party vendors playing the same game, which is nearly impossible in the Windows world, and would take 5 years at best (think how many Windows software is still not using MSI, which is 8 years old).

And I still don't get your point.
 
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2010-10-12 , 21:39
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I mean incorporate a standalone installer in the packaging system, for mass installation it would work just like a plain package, but when desired would have all the options one would expect on a decent installer

edit: and would work with different packaging systems etc, even possible to install without one as well
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#128
Originally Posted by TiagoTiago View Post
I mean incorporate a standalone installer in the packaging system, for mass installation it would work just like a plain package, but when desired would have all the options one would expect on a decent installer

edit: and would work ith different packaging systems etc, even possible to install without one as well
Main reason is the one I stated on an earlier post: few people if any would use it.

The current trend is the exact opposite; that is: to move to question-less packages. See Microsoft Installer, iPhone apps, etc.
 
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2010-10-12 , 21:45
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#129
So basicly, until someone makes an specialized solution for the N900, we're pretty much screwed?



I was hoping this thread wouldn't end with "Well, dung happens"
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Originally Posted by TiagoTiago View Post
So basicly, until someone makes an specialized solution for the N900, we're pretty much screwed?
And that's something I wanted to hear, just to then be able to ask: what's the problem you just experienced that triggered this discussion? Can we concentrate on fixing _that_ package instead of the world?

Don't you realise that if such package was fixed, you WOULDN'T need the option you're asking for, at all?
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