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2010-10-27
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This community amazes me sometimes...
Worst thing about this whole scenario is that by working away, spending time and money to fix some bugs etc Nokia has brought more hate their way.
Sure, I'd love to see a flash update, and a load of other major features updated in this release, but I'm not disappointed they're not in there. As said before disappointment can only come after an expectation has not been met. I was happy with my phone when I got it, any improvement from there is a bonus to me, and another model coming out with better/equal features doesn't magically make my phone unable to do the things it used to.
A lot of the positive feedback on the new update cites that their phones now seem more responsive and quicker. Should that update have waited 3/6/infinite months until flash, maps etc were ready?
I can't comment on PR1.3 yet as I've yet to see it pop up for an OTA update (I'm in the UK), which just means, like with 1.2, I'll get to see all the problems the eager upgraders have, and how to avoid them. In fact it was a good couple of months after 1.2 that I did eventually do the upgrade, and then only because an app had been improved and the new version needed 1.2
Imagine that: upgrading because there was a reason to and not because the number was bigger..
Worst thing about this whole scenario is that by working away, spending time and money to fix some bugs etc Nokia has brought more hate their way.
Sure, I'd love to see a flash update, and a load of other major features updated in this release, but I'm not disappointed they're not in there. As said before disappointment can only come after an expectation has not been met. I was happy with my phone when I got it, any improvement from there is a bonus to me, and another model coming out with better/equal features doesn't magically make my phone unable to do the things it used to.
A lot of the positive feedback on the new update cites that their phones now seem more responsive and quicker. Should that update have waited 3/6/infinite months until flash, maps etc were ready?
I can't comment on PR1.3 yet as I've yet to see it pop up for an OTA update (I'm in the UK), which just means, like with 1.2, I'll get to see all the problems the eager upgraders have, and how to avoid them. In fact it was a good couple of months after 1.2 that I did eventually do the upgrade, and then only because an app had been improved and the new version needed 1.2
Imagine that: upgrading because there was a reason to and not because the number was bigger..
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2010-10-27
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i didnt install PR 1.3 yet. The installation of Ovi took more than 5 Min on my PC, so i cancelled it. (yeah, im VERY bad at this "waiting" thingie or whatever you call it) And I obviously have to use Ovi update.
Oh, and one thing Nokia DID announce was native multiboot.
I didnt read a thing about that AFTER the release of 1.3.
BTW, does anyone has a link or something for the release notes? So I can decide if i may want to install PR 1.3. (Oh, and i dont mean the Release Notes saying "the device now feels faster" or stuff like that. I mean the REAL thing like "this and that has been change in this way")
Oh, and one thing Nokia DID announce was native multiboot.
I didnt read a thing about that AFTER the release of 1.3.
BTW, does anyone has a link or something for the release notes? So I can decide if i may want to install PR 1.3. (Oh, and i dont mean the Release Notes saying "the device now feels faster" or stuff like that. I mean the REAL thing like "this and that has been change in this way")
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by ChoMar
A man after my own heart.
i didnt install PR 1.3 yet. The installation of Ovi took more than 5 Min on my PC, so i cancelled it. (yeah, im VERY bad at this "waiting" thingie or whatever you call it) And I obviously have to use Ovi update.
Oh, and one thing Nokia DID announce was native multiboot.
I didnt read a thing about that AFTER the release of 1.3.
BTW, does anyone has a link or something for the release notes? So I can decide if i may want to install PR 1.3. (Oh, and i dont mean the Release Notes saying "the device now feels faster" or stuff like that. I mean the REAL thing like "this and that has been change in this way")
Incidentally, how many of the 'Disappoint' posters do you reckon would have installed the update anyway if they'd known exactly what it did.
I'm guessing 100%...
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by ChoMar
Why?
And I obviously have to use Ovi update.
Originally Posted by ChoMar
When? I've never heard about that. What would "native" multiboot be, anyway, according to your definition?
Oh, and one thing Nokia DID announce was native multiboot.
What they said was that PR 1.3 would remove the requirement for temporarily flashing the kernel when dual-booting into MeeGo, which basically meant you needed the N900 attached to a PC via USB each time you wanted to start MeeGo. That's what they said, and that's what they delivered. It works, the video's online.
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by johnny_knoe
yea i thought 1.3 would make email widget work with nokia messaging but sadly it isnt.
It's a pity that the email widget till doesn't work with nokia messaging- it only shows the number of eMails, but not the subject. So it's pretty useless...
Apart from that the phone feels alot snappier. The update is ok for me and it's nice to see that the N900 is not abandoned by Nokia. Looking forward to MeeGo 1.1 for a dual boot test setup.
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by ChoMar
no, they didn't.
Oh, and one thing Nokia DID announce was native multiboot.
there was one blog post which said multiboot would be made easier with 1.3 (basically a few kexec patches to the kernel), and the press took that statement and totally blew it out of proportion.
nokia never announced "native" multiboot, since they support only one OS officially (Fremantle aka Maemo5).
edit: i should remember to refresh a thread before answering
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2010-10-27
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Well, at least Nokia could take some time to take care of the bigger bugs, that's something that a consumer can EXPECT and it's not something that the maemo community should fix.
I am so surprised (and disappointed) that the poor support for handsfree devices is still a fact. It's quite a bunch of car handsfree's that sound so terribly bad that you hardly can hear anything. Aqustic feedback, robotic voice, cutouts and dropped connections (ie useless). That's a BASIC functionality that just should WORK. The most cheap phones handles these bluetooth features better than the expensive n900.
BTW, Don't bash the OP! Even if one doesn't agree completely, he has the right to be angry.
I am so surprised (and disappointed) that the poor support for handsfree devices is still a fact. It's quite a bunch of car handsfree's that sound so terribly bad that you hardly can hear anything. Aqustic feedback, robotic voice, cutouts and dropped connections (ie useless). That's a BASIC functionality that just should WORK. The most cheap phones handles these bluetooth features better than the expensive n900.
BTW, Don't bash the OP! Even if one doesn't agree completely, he has the right to be angry.
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2010-10-27
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Oh, another thing, Andre Klapper's job at bugs.maemo.org seems primarily be to close bug reports rather than forwarding them to Nokia for thorough investigation.
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2010-10-27
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Originally Posted by Larswad
not here, this is NOT a nokia support forum. he can be angry over at forum.nokia.com all he wants.
BTW, Don't bash the OP! Even if one doesn't agree completely, he has the right to be angry.
Originally Posted by Larswad
and you base that on what, exactly?
Oh, another thing, Andre Klapper's job at bugs.maemo.org seems primarily be to close bug reports rather than forwarding them to Nokia for thorough investigation.
IMO he does a great job at forwarding and escalating important and not-so-important bugs.
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