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I don't have any oddities with powering on, despite having fbcon modprobed as early, as it's possible. As for reboots, sometimes it shuts down, but it's ancient bug, dating from times, when framebuffer wasn't available at all 
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2012-05-11
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Originally Posted by reinob
I am afraid my report is just that. Vague. Vague as ****.
@vi_
Do you have some details about this. Or is your experience as "vague" as mine (i.e. can't quite tell when this happens).
Oddly enough I very rarely reboot/turn-off, so (1) I can live with the problems that fbcon may introduce, but (2) why the heck do I want fbcon?
I think, like you, I prefer fbcon and live with the oddities. After all, I consider preinit-fbcon a debugging tool first. The "coolness" factor comes second.
Anyway, I'll investigate this when I can (oh not again..)
BTW. originally I did modprobe fbcon + touch /tmp/skip-fb-progress.tmp (obviously after mounting /tmp) hoping to get rid of the booting dots. The N900 booted (not always as per above), but the dots still appeared (later, but they did).
Now that I can "safely" play with my spare N900 I will try to (1) run getty on all vt's (just for safety) + (2) de-dsmetool Xorg so that I can kill it and jump back to a real console with the whole of Maemo loaded (except obviously things using X).
All I need is a CLI version of the dialer!
Getting rid of dots is easy. In fact you can replace dots with any program. xterm for example. 'dots' is just a program that displays the dots forever till it is closed.
Boot process goes like this:
1. Pre-init
2. Load up some stuff.
3. Start X
4. Start matchbox WM
5. Display dots
6. Check if code needs to be entered
7. Check some other stuff (like is this first boot etc)
8. kill dots.
9. Stop Matchbox.
10. Start hildon etc.
Look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d (or whatever it is called) you will find the start up scripts.
I could not think of anything to replace dots with (xeyes, cpu meter, truecrypt mounting script/password dialogue?), so I just left them out of the boot process to hopefully speed up startup.
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2012-05-11
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#124
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Originally Posted by Estel
OK, so I must've fvcked up somewhere else (I've removed lots of stuff from the default installation).
I don't have any oddities with powering on, despite having fbcon modprobed as early, as it's possible.
As for reboots, sometimes it shuts down, but it's ancient bug, dating from times, when framebuffer wasn't available at all
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2012-05-11
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this revoery console depends on boot menu. and bootmenu conflicts with multiboot. so i cant use backupmenu if i want recovery console. ryt?
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2012-05-11
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@vi_ and @Estel,
Problem solved
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Edit: no so fast! I turned it on today and even though *I think* I saw it starting in getbootstate = USER the white Nokia logo came up again and it booted again (also with getbootstate = USER). So I need to investigate further.
Nevertheless, the points below may be useful/relevant..
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My /etc/event.d was "infested" by .dpkg-new files, which (presumably) were also being executed. That is, some services were being started/stopped twice, with (presumably) unpredictable results.
To make the verification a bit harder I've at the same time moved the following from /etc/event.d to /etc/event.d/disabled: hildon-startup-progress, progress (+ nokiamessaging and testserver, but that's another story).
Also from /etc/X11/Xsession.d I have kicked out 01xprogress.plus the corresponding 22xprogress-stop in Xsession.post
[NOTE: I hate the mixing up of Xsession scripts and upstart events. Lots of things are actually duplicates, or so it seems, plus the restarting of stuff if the locale changes during boot. JFC!]
Conclusion:
My N900 boots with earliest fbcon reliably. Shutdown works also fine.
The dots do eventually so up (WTF?!) right before asking me if I want to stay in off-line mode, as well as after the question.
So there's some other "event" going on.
Last edited by reinob; 2012-05-12 at 10:43. Reason: additional information
Problem solved
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Edit: no so fast! I turned it on today and even though *I think* I saw it starting in getbootstate = USER the white Nokia logo came up again and it booted again (also with getbootstate = USER). So I need to investigate further.
Nevertheless, the points below may be useful/relevant..
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My /etc/event.d was "infested" by .dpkg-new files, which (presumably) were also being executed. That is, some services were being started/stopped twice, with (presumably) unpredictable results.
To make the verification a bit harder
I've at the same time moved the following from /etc/event.d to /etc/event.d/disabled: hildon-startup-progress, progress (+ nokiamessaging and testserver, but that's another story).Also from /etc/X11/Xsession.d I have kicked out 01xprogress.plus the corresponding 22xprogress-stop in Xsession.post
[NOTE: I hate the mixing up of Xsession scripts and upstart events. Lots of things are actually duplicates, or so it seems, plus the restarting of stuff if the locale changes during boot. JFC!]
Conclusion:
My N900 boots with earliest fbcon reliably. Shutdown works also fine.
The dots do eventually so up (WTF?!) right before asking me if I want to stay in off-line mode, as well as after the question.
So there's some other "event" going on.
Last edited by reinob; 2012-05-12 at 10:43. Reason: additional information
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2012-05-11
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Originally Posted by Mohammed Muid
If you think you need Recovery Console then you know enough not to have any need for Backupmenu, as Backupmenu is just running commands that you can easily type on the recovery console, with the added benefit of having full control over the parameters as well as proper "error spotting".
this revoery console depends on boot menu. and bootmenu conflicts with multiboot. so i cant use backupmenu if i want recovery console. ryt?
No idea about multiboot (never used it, never will). The combination of bootmenu and recovery console (or even without bootmenu if you know what you're doing, hint: /sbin/preinit) gives you all the power you need
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Originally Posted by reinob
I think I can beat you a bit regarding loading of fbcon, as with multiboot installed, there are more lines between fbcon and real excuting of preinit
Regarding balls: I have just edited preinit and put the modprobe line as the very second "physical" line of the file (i.e. after the shebang).
But during reading sources of multiboot's preinit (/sbin/multiboot), I saw a possibility for a shell (S). Without fbcon, nothimg happened. With fbcon I got a shell and could enter some commands. But as watchdog barks after 30s, there is only few time to type. I reset the timeout in multiboot to let the system start after timeout.
But I would like to use the console. so how I do disable the watchdog without RD mode? Something like typing manually "watchdog /dev/watchdog" or ... ?
Sorry for possible hijacking, but topic is similar.
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2012-05-21
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@peterleinchen,
You need the watchdogs program (see the recovery.sh for information on how to use it). I don't know if it comes with the recovery-boot package. If not, please ask again (unless you find it yourself).
You need the watchdogs program (see the recovery.sh for information on how to use it). I don't know if it comes with the recovery-boot package. If not, please ask again (unless you find it yourself).
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watchdogs is in bootmenu package
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Do you have some details about this. Or is your experience as "vague" as mine (i.e. can't quite tell when this happens).
Oddly enough I very rarely reboot/turn-off, so (1) I can live with the problems that fbcon may introduce, but (2) why the heck do I want fbcon?
I think, like you, I prefer fbcon and live with the oddities. After all, I consider preinit-fbcon a debugging tool first. The "coolness" factor comes second.
Anyway, I'll investigate this when I can (oh not again..)
BTW. originally I did modprobe fbcon + touch /tmp/skip-fb-progress.tmp (obviously after mounting /tmp) hoping to get rid of the booting dots. The N900 booted (not always as per above), but the dots still appeared (later, but they did).
Now that I can "safely" play with my spare N900 I will try to (1) run getty on all vt's (just for safety) + (2) de-dsmetool Xorg so that I can kill it and jump back to a real console with the whole of Maemo loaded (except obviously things using X).
All I need is a CLI version of the dialer!