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2011-06-09 , 08:55
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#121
Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
I wish I could follow stocks in realtime.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:NOK

Nothing new since yesterday there.
I think CTO departure will further dent the stocks.
Almost real time price, bid volumes, order depth and list of latest trades.

http://www.nasdaqomxnordic.com/share...ument=HEX24311
 

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2011-06-09 , 09:34
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#122
People should not read too much into market capitalisation, its just one of many variables to determine the real value of a company.
 

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2011-06-09 , 10:04
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#123
Originally Posted by Rugoz View Post
People should not read too much into market capitalisation, its just one of many variables to determine the real value of a company.
Finally, I find someone here who can differentiate between market cap and firm value.

Glad to know you.
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#124
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
No new anything shown that's a blockbuster seller, a reduced presence in regards to their market share being somewhere around it was in 1998 or so, the public dropping of MeeGo for the lesser liked and bought (out of Android and iOS options) WP7... yeah.

No surprise here.
Maybe you would like to take a look at the google's stock as well?
EDIT:Added the link:http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AGOOG (Choose the Year till date option.)
Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
Finally, I find someone here who can differentiate between market cap and firm value.

Glad to know you.
Yeah. I mean so. Market share is not the most important factor to judge about the company's value.
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2011-06-09 , 11:26
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#125
Elop is acutally a genius.

A real businessman doesn't sell a single phone once in a while - one by one. He sells the whole company at once. Smart!
 

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2011-06-09 , 11:31
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#126
Originally Posted by cBeam View Post
yeah, this is where Steven Elop, current CEO of Nokia stated that he wishes that HTC and Samsung will be successful with Windows Phone.
Well, he's not wrong, in the sense that Nokia has hitched their wagon WP. If WP fails, then Nokia does too. So of course Nokia wants it to succeed. Success will mean that other hardware makers will want to use it too.

The best possible result here is that Nokia gets to be just another Microsoft OEM. Hopefully the biggest. They are shooting to be the Dell of phones. Which I guess is better than being bankrupt, but it isn't exactly an exciting future either. They will have to live on small profit margins and pretty much jettison any hope of doing serious R&D.
 

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2011-06-09 , 12:27
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#127
Originally Posted by bobh View Post
Well, he's not wrong, ...
He is still working for Microsoft it seems tough...

I still don't get why WP7 is so much better for Nokia than Android would have been.

Originally Posted by bobh View Post
The best possible result here is that Nokia gets to be just another Microsoft OEM.
Why not join the bigger Android community than the without-Nokia-already-dead WP7 community with all this talk about being reduced to an OEM?
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2011-06-09 , 13:05
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#128
Originally Posted by Stonik View Post
Elop is acutally a genius.

A real businessman doesn't sell a single phone once in a while - one by one. He sells the whole company at once. Smart!
Yep, just like he sold the entire company to Adobe months after he assumed duty as a CEO of Macromedia.

He's a real expert in betraying...I meant selling his company.


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2011-06-09 , 18:44
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#129
Finally an article that states that the worst might be over for NOK shareholders. Some good numbers there.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2741...y?source=yahoo

The author is long NOK, so he either sees the rosy side or puts his money where his mouth is.
 
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2011-06-09 , 19:11
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#130
Originally Posted by cBeam View Post
Trivia question of the day:

Who said this in a keynote at Qualcomm’s Uplinq?

"The point though is that I want Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, to be successful with Windows Phone. I want G.S. Choi at Samsung to be successful with Windows Phone."

[quote slightly edited for name and function of referred to persons]

a) Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft
b) Larry Page, CEO of Google
c) Steve Jobs, Apple dude
d) Stephen Elop, CEO of Nokia
I'm afraid to answer...
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