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specc	2012-03-17 , 15:03
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Originally Posted by zimon

Meltemi may be just a Microsoft's (remember Elop) plan to fragmentate Linux ecosystem even more than it already is.
http://www.software-latest.com/2011/...t-anymore.html
...no wonder, killing Meego by affecting Nokia was an ingenious move for MS.

I don't see what this has to do with Meltemi. Meltemi is for low end phones, not full blown PCs or tablets. Meltemi may be dead boring for all I know. It certainly will have a very stripped down kernel, if it has a Linux kernel at all. It is probably more like Bada, only with Qt, and equally kernel agnostic. A modernized S40 kernel with Qt is as probable as Linux kernel with Qt. As Symbian is still alive, it may even be Symbian, but not very likely. I really don't know. I think Nokia right now is walking a path with least short term trouble and least short term investments rather than one that is the "best".

When it comes I gotta have it to play with, and then I find out if it is cool or not

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rcolistete	2012-03-17 , 15:47
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Originally Posted by specc

Meltemi may be dead boring for all I know. It certainly will have a very stripped down kernel, if it has a Linux kernel at all. It is probably more like Bada, only with Qt, and equally kernel agnostic. A modernized S40 kernel with Qt is as probable as Linux kernel with Qt.

No, Meltemi is confirmed to have Linux kernel + Qt + WebKit + Swipe.

This combination doesn't seem to be boring...

Obviously, there are many questions : will Meltemi have X Windows or Wayland, glibc, Python/PySide, etc ?

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jalyst	2012-03-17 , 15:58
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I'm not doing a very good job of staying away from this forum, sigh.
If this is any guide then Wayland may be on the cards...
Search for "linux-arm7-gcc-wayland"
http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0
But yes it was hinted long ago that Meltemi = SwipeUX + Linux kernel* + Qt5 + Webkit.
See last entry in QGil's BLOG & numerous other stories/sources since/before(?) then.

*some rumors have gone further, suggesting it's stripped-down/modified Maemo 6x.
But I can't recall if they originated form legit sources or not.

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specc	2012-03-17 , 18:01
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Originally Posted by rcolistete

No, Meltemi is confirmed to have Linux kernel + Qt + WebKit + Swipe.

This combination doesn't seem to be boring...

Obviously, there are many questions : will Meltemi have X Windows or Wayland, glibc, Python/PySide, etc ?

Where can this confirmation be found? Sounds nice, but without some hard facts it is only whishful thinking.

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gerbick	2012-03-18 , 06:09
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Tizen will be as successful as MeeGo.

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	danramos	2012-03-18 , 06:34
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Originally Posted by toki

id buy anything meego xD especially if it comes from nokia

nokia needs to know that they need to support this awesome os!!!!!

but! id rather have a hkb... and im pretty sure they could implement the 41mpx camera tooo
i dont care about bulkiness

There's no use trying to convince them of anything anymore, they've set their sites on a big white whale and even if it kills them, they're going to hunt it on the Microsoft ship and the crazy captain DOES look like he's willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone just to chase this insane whale down. And man, that blubbery OS is one lousy whale.

[patpatpat] It's cute--but Nokia doesn't love you anymore, kid.

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	Dave999	2012-03-18 , 08:14
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Originally Posted by gerbick

Tizen will be as successful as MeeGo.

That is good enough for me. But I think you are wrong. (If tizen reaching the customers.)

Firstly, samsung isn't nokia, they rule the mobile world with innovative products. They don't need an instant success. The can build the OS för years while you and others running around here complaining about just about everything.

Secondly, samsung knows what the public wants. The users wants to see flashy gui like the demo samsung released. The will keep them coming and that is the why to make it. People won't know what tizen is, until they sees a cool gui demo.

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GrimyHR	2012-03-18 , 10:33
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Originally Posted by gerbick

Tizen will be as successful as MeeGo.

or even less if possible

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GrimyHR	2012-03-18 , 10:40
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris

That is good enough for me. But I think you are wrong. (If tizen reaching the customers.)

Firstly, samsung isn't nokia, they rule the mobile world with innovative products. They don't need an instant success. The can build the OS för years while you and others running around here complaining about just about everything.

Secondly, samsung knows what the public wants. The users wants to see flashy gui like the demo samsung released. The will keep them coming and that is the why to make it. People won't know what tizen is, until they sees a cool gui demo.

im sorry but innovative? putting an quad core and a strong gpu in your mobile phone that runs someone elses crappy OS is not innovative in any way...
nokia was and is still a leader in number of innovations brought to smartphone market(if you ignore nokias WP part that is in no way innovative and is a step back) and is still highly competitive(with symbian based 808 for instance, not WP nokias)

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	danramos	2012-03-18 , 11:22
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Nokia innovated alright. ...They innovated the lowest-quality world-class customer service and innovated ignoring the customers as an art until they innovated themselves into a mess and then innovated a way to have Microsoft send over one of its flying monkeys to take over.