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2012-06-05
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Dear everyone complaining about how whatsapp uses your information. Just don't use Whatsapp. Simple!
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2012-06-05
, 21:58
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Originally Posted by tgalal
Thats how it should be!!! Dont use it if you dont agree with it. Complaining here is not going to change it!!
Dear everyone complaining about how whatsapp uses your information. Just don't use Whatsapp. Simple!
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2012-06-05
, 22:02
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@ Bilbao (Basque Country [Spain])
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Originally Posted by godofwar424
I don't use my real data in any service with a bad privacy policy. I removed most of my data from facebook (wich policy I didn't accept until they changed it because lot of complaints). And I don't use untrusted facebook aplications (wich are the most of them XD). Well, I use paypal, who now give your data to a lot of financial companies :S
If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as. Then again, you should also not use ANY online service as information about you and your contacts can be access by other services such as Twitter and Facebook..
Whatsapp's privacy policy is the worst I saw. It can even change without notice the users (that's illegal in my country, Spain) , and it is considered accepted if the user continue using it after the change. They say that the user is responsible of re-reading from time to time their privacy policy and search for changes from the older one. wtf?
In PeterBornx Java Port I used a false IMEI and a alias phone number from fonyou.com to my real number. In Yappari I have to use my real IMEI but I continue using not my real number.
I tried to register a completely false phone number but the free SMS services I tried didn't work.
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2012-06-05
, 22:07
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so... They fight to get this app... Then they complain and talk how its good for nothing but battery draining and info stealing! What Has this community come to? I do apologize for those that try but seriously if your not good and constructive then with all due respect just leave.
anyway... Has anyone experienced random scrolling?
anyway... Has anyone experienced random scrolling?
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2012-06-05
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@ Bilbao (Basque Country [Spain])
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Originally Posted by mämo
You can do that in Peterbjornx Java port. (works in N900 and PC and anywhere where you can run a .jar).
Of course you could. By adding your contacts manually, like any other IM system does.
In Yappari just contacts with international prefix are added to your contact list.
But two of them will add synchronization with Whatsapp servers.
You can second my wazaap issue asking for an option to not sync: https://github.com/tgalal/wazapp/issues/17
By the way, you don't get any contacts in wazaap contacts list maybe because you need to add international prefix to all of them. Thats a need of whatsapp protocol.
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2012-06-05
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Originally Posted by malkavian
Okay honestly, its still a pointless discussion, if the policy and terms didn't apply to the EU's strict privacy laws, then WhatsApp WOULDNT BE IN THE EU!
It's a big problem for me. I would punch all the friends that sent my phone number to a company that use the laws from California and USA and not the ones from Europe, much more restrictive with privacy data. But I don't want to lose my friends so I just blamed on them and I asked to Whatsapp Inc for removing my phone number from their databases.
But surprise surprise, it is, meaning it passed the EU's prying eye with no issues.
Originally Posted by malkavian
As for conversation and data, you do realise the all texts/ims/facebook chats/skypes/everything is monitored and if need be can be accessed by anybody with authority to do so such as Intelligence Agencies or Local Police with warrants as well as other random agencies.
Are you sure that the oficial whatsapp only sends the numbers? Maybe you analyzed the protocol and you know it, I am just curious.
It also stores the conversations, sent files, and more data... That can be read in their privacy policy.
Go start a thread in the off-topic section about how you hate that all your data is being 'stolen' It is a price we have to pay to use technology, its not exactly like they can ruin your life, its a phone number :P
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Well Nokia do at least know how to build a decent phone, just apparently don't know how to support it..
N900 Died
Replaced with N8, Requested E7, "Accidentally Broke E7", Now rolling with an N9 and im loving it! 
My Contributions
N900 Conversations Wiki Page
Well Nokia do at least know how to build a decent phone, just apparently don't know how to support it..
N900 Died
Replaced with N8, Requested E7, "Accidentally Broke E7", Now rolling with an N9 and im loving it! My Contributions
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Last edited by godofwar424; 2012-06-05 at 22:32.
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2012-06-05
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Originally Posted by specc
If you don't understand a basic IM app like this, you should put down your current phone, and go get a Nokia 3310..
I don't understand this app. Installed it (the original) on Symbian and WP. The only thing it did for me was to drain the battery. The only valid point about it is you can use WiFI, and that also means you drain the battery.
How about you get off your butt and google what the app is.. Instead of expecting somebody here to spoon feed you..
ALSO compared to using normal 3G for Data, WiFi actually uses much less power when left on in the same manner due to a number of power saving methods built into the protocols.. Don't post about things you clearly don't understand.
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Well Nokia do at least know how to build a decent phone, just apparently don't know how to support it..
N900 Died Replaced with N8, Requested E7, "Accidentally Broke E7", Now rolling with an N9 and im loving it!
My Contributions
N900 Conversations Wiki Page
Well Nokia do at least know how to build a decent phone, just apparently don't know how to support it..
N900 Died
Replaced with N8, Requested E7, "Accidentally Broke E7", Now rolling with an N9 and im loving it! My Contributions
N900 Conversations Wiki Page
Last edited by godofwar424; 2012-06-05 at 22:31.
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2012-06-05
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Originally Posted by CepiPerez
No, they don't and it isn't. Well, maybe now they do, after I inadvertently stumbled into this. Apparently none of my existing contacts use Whatsapp, so thats why I see "No contacts yet. Try to resync". I wanted to try out this app after all the hype around here to see if I can suggest it to some close friends as SMS or IM substitute. I expected to be able to add those friends manually.
And maybe you don't know, but your friends phone numbers already exists in whatsapp database for sure, and that's the reason you want wazapp.
Originally Posted by godofwar424
OK, I misunderstood the underlying technology and I know Wazapp is simply relying on the Whatsapp platform. But that's not the point.
Go to WhatsApp directly and moan at them, also your reasons are pretty stupid. ...
Take your non relevance to a place where it is wanted, your issue is with how WhatsApp works, nothing to do with Wazapp!
What I don't understand is what you all get up in a huffy about someone asking for proper disclosure. I'm not saying the app shouldn't do what it does. I'm not trying to piss on your parade. All I'm saying is, include a dialog that says
"Running this app will upload your phone book to Whatsapp servers. Tap to agree."
Not something buried in 10 pages of "Terms & Conditions" legalese.
Is that too much to ask? Would it make the app any less useful for you guys? You are basically arguing "No, we MUST do this sneakily under the hood, without telling the user. We will absolutely not be upfront about it."
Why?
Maybe it would give some people pause and lead them to not sign up. But this is a 3rd-party app - tgalal, why do you care? You're not making any money from people using or not using the Whatsapp platform via your app. So what if a few drop out?
I actually did some digging and found Path did a similar thing not too long ago and they ended up apologizing profusely:
http://blog.path.com/post/17274932484/we-are-sorry
That story actually caused quite a bit of uproar and a lot of other companies got caught up in it and changed their policies:
http://allthingsd.com/20120215/follo...up-their-acts/
Finally, even Apple now requires apps to get explicit permission before accessing contact data:
http://allthingsd.com/20120215/apple...er-permission/
Say what you want about Apple and the iPhone, but in this case, why not follow that example?
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2012-06-05
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Originally Posted by malkavian
Completely defeats the point of the app, if this is the functions you want, go use Skype/MSN/FB Chat/Other Traditional IM...
You can do that in Peterbjornx Java port. (works in N900 and PC and anywhere where you can run a .jar).
In Yappari just contacts with international prefix are added to your contact list.
But two of them will add synchronization with Whatsapp servers.
You can second my wazaap issue asking for an option to not sync: https://github.com/tgalal/wazapp/issues/17
By the way, you don't get any contacts in wazaap contacts list maybe because you need to add international prefix to all of them. Thats a need of whatsapp protocol.
Originally Posted by mämo
The main point of this app is to take that extra step of having to manually type in an email or username or even a PIN out of the equation, and allow your phonebook contacts to be straight away available to chat to.
No, they don't and it isn't. Well, maybe now they do, after I inadvertently stumbled into this. Apparently none of my existing contacts use Whatsapp, so thats why I see "No contacts yet. Try to resync". I wanted to try out this app after all the hype around here to see if I can suggest it to some close friends as SMS or IM substitute. I expected to be able to add those friends manually.
Its how the app functions, honestly if you don't like the way it functions and you want to add friends manually, then use the MANY alternatives that function that way.
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Well Nokia do at least know how to build a decent phone, just apparently don't know how to support it..
N900 Died Replaced with N8, Requested E7, "Accidentally Broke E7", Now rolling with an N9 and im loving it!
My Contributions
N900 Conversations Wiki Page
Well Nokia do at least know how to build a decent phone, just apparently don't know how to support it..
N900 Died
Replaced with N8, Requested E7, "Accidentally Broke E7", Now rolling with an N9 and im loving it! My Contributions
N900 Conversations Wiki Page
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2012-06-05
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#1320
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mämo and malkavian, this is the way the official app works, if you have a problem then go to whatsapp, the aim of this app is only to replicate an already existing app.
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