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2012-03-18
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Originally Posted by danramos
yes, let us just look at the bad and ignore all the good when nokia is in question and than do the oposite when for instance samsung in question(and samsung here has so much crappier support that it is unbelievable, not to mention that you are lucky if you get one update from samsung for most phones, so that means a support of about 6 months...lol, we had more official updates for our "unpopular" maemo...)
Nokia innovated alright. ...They innovated the lowest-quality world-class customer service and innovated ignoring the customers as an art until they innovated themselves into a mess and then innovated a way to have Microsoft send over one of its flying monkeys to take over.
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2012-03-19
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#133
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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa
Exactly what I think. Could be 4 or 4.3 amoled 'rgb' WVGA screen. dualcore for sure. 1.2 ghz with a decent GPU and of corse HW keyboard, OS? maemo or meego, just opensource and costumazible. and ( 2500 + MA battery ) In theory just a better N900. All the others are going to quadcore, why Nokia alwais behind? That's why they are losing market share.
i dont need whatsapp, give it body like N950 and make it dualcore, and pair it with best gpu, hardware keyboard and proper support,
and 1gb of ram is enough
I would buy it for sure. BTW I'm writing on N900.
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2012-03-19
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#134
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If Nokia makes a cool geeky device that every geek loves, but the general public ignore, then Nokia is a looser? So when Nokia makes streamlined devices that sells pritty well (lumia), then they are winners?
You have to make up your minds. Get the device you want and stop being fanboys.
Samsung is the king today, but not through innovation. They only make slightly more badass products than the competition. Component vise they are untouchable though, so even if they didnt make all those badass products they would still rule.
Nokia is the innovator. 808 pureview will shine for years to come, all thanks to old fashioned innovation.
You have to make up your minds. Get the device you want and stop being fanboys.
Samsung is the king today, but not through innovation. They only make slightly more badass products than the competition. Component vise they are untouchable though, so even if they didnt make all those badass products they would still rule.
Nokia is the innovator. 808 pureview will shine for years to come, all thanks to old fashioned innovation.
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2012-03-19
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#135
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Originally Posted by GrimyHR
lol my sgs2 got ics update yesterday, and all improved, ur just a fanboy, wake up, wake up, stop defending ur lovely nokia, u will just blaming yourself, i love maemo, but not with nokia,
yes, let us just look at the bad and ignore all the good when nokia is in question and than do the oposite when for instance samsung in question(and samsung here has so much crappier support that it is unbelievable, not to mention that you are lucky if you get one update from samsung for most phones, so that means a support of about 6 months...lol, we had more official updates for our "unpopular" maemo...)
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2012-03-19
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Originally Posted by GrimyHR
Isn't it ironic and hypocritical that you executed precisely the maneuver you accused me of--only you tried to use it on a provably successful company? Samsung isn't my favorite brand of Android manufacturer, honestly, but they seem to be doing a far better job--enough to overtake Nokia handily in smartphone market share with far fewer complaints, overall. That MIGHT be because, although Samsung itself doesn't seem to support their products to the customers directly, their vendors and retail service centers happily take care of customers on-the-spot FOR them because Samsung takes care of their vendors and retailers very promptly and happily as well. Nokia, instead, has decided to blame their vendors and retailers for their failures. Upgrades or not, the customer support and repairs is ultimately the most important aspect and upgrades are secondary to being cared for in case of problems.
yes, let us just look at the bad and ignore all the good when nokia is in question and than do the oposite when for instance samsung in question(and samsung here has so much crappier support that it is unbelievable, not to mention that you are lucky if you get one update from samsung for most phones, so that means a support of about 6 months...lol, we had more official updates for our "unpopular" maemo...)
But, to the issue of upgrades and software, you greatly exaggerate Samsung's upgrade support. But it's nice to know that Android isn't tied to hardware so tightly (as Maemo and Apple are) that you couldn't go out and instead buy from Asus or HTC or that some other manufacturer that suddenly decides to compete. This SHOULD have been Maemo's advantage but it never turned out that way. Once again, Nokia really messed up what SHOULD have been a significant innovation while they were well ahead of everyone else.
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2012-03-19
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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa
and what about samsung galaxy s users? and users of all samsung phones cheaper than sgs2 and on market for much less than two years? are they all not entitled to same support if their hardware is good enough? and that ics is probably the last update you will receive even thou your sgs2 wuld easily handle a couple of next major OS versions
lol my sgs2 got ics update yesterday, and all improved, ur just a fanboy, wake up, wake up, stop defending ur lovely nokia, u will just blaming yourself, i love maemo, but not with nokia,
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2012-03-19
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Originally Posted by danramos
lol, just took them 25 days to repair an sgs still in warranty here in the official central service for my country, got it couple of days ago, only thing they did was to change the motherboard...and did i get an replacement phone for that time? no...
Upgrades or not, the customer support and repairs is ultimately the most important aspect and upgrades are secondary to being cared for in case of problems.
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2012-03-19
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Originally Posted by GrimyHR
Cold comfort argument to those of us who owned Nokia 770, Nokia N800, Nokia N810 and Nokia N810WE, when Maemo 5 came out and we were promised Fremantle backports that never materialized, since the hardware on those devices CAN handle most of the updates/patches and users would CERTAINLY have appreciated more security and bugfixes. WHERE'S YOUR MAEMO NOW?
and what about samsung galaxy s users? and users of all samsung phones cheaper than sgs2 and on market for much less than two years? are they all not entitled to same support if their hardware is good enough? and that ics is probably the last update you will receive even thou your sgs2 wuld easily handle a couple of next major OS versions
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Originally Posted by GrimyHR
That's certainly no worse than Nokia's world-class mail-it-in-MAYBE-get-it-back-in-30-days warranty where you also aren't given a replacement phone in that time AND the benefit of having NO idea where your phone is at any given moment. If you're unlucky, you ended up getting a Symbian phone instead of your N900. FANTASTIC, Nokia! People LOVE that. On the other hand, my experience with Motorola and Verizon was extraordinarily excellent. I walked in--got a replacement the SAME day with Verizon (who took care of it for me on behalf of Motorola) and then another incident where Motorola sent me a FREE replacement part by 2-day shipping. Nokia's support has been nothing but frustrating, impotent and insulting during my experience with them and that of the people I've associated with during my Maemo era.
lol, just took them 25 days to repair an sgs still in warranty here in the official central service for my country, got it couple of days ago, only thing they did was to change the motherboard...and did i get an replacement phone for that time? no...
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It can be if you do it faster better and cheaper than others. But that was not what I meant here.
Nokia was market leaders and had the money and sales to be innovative. But the have dropped the ball and Samsung has it atm. what I mean is that they are market leaders in smart phone segment. They have galaxy note and galaxy beam and no other can compete here. They have tablets in several sizes and they have increased the sales of parts to apple. They support several OS and working on a new one. Nokia have several OS but struggling with all of them. It's not about the OS. It's about the product.
All vendors can do innovative phones. Just build something crazy. But it won't sell, you must believe in it and have the economical muscles to back it up for years. Nokia don't have it anymore.
I never use innovative without adding usable and and profitable right after. You are not innovative if you cant profit from it!