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2008-02-06
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#132
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Originally Posted by m_sparks
You mean like a competitor for the Cradepoint Personal Hotspot (hopefully that, instead of their non-battery product (CTR I think?))?
i don't think it's going to be a new tablet - i'm betting on the "two box" theory. A small "box" that will take care of translation between WiFi/bluetooth to the WiMax network. This "box" will also provide the subscriber authentication means (sim or whatever it is).
would be easy/inexpensive, and in my view the most important, enables WiMax for all tablets. (sarcasm: no-it's not a phone! )
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I'd like to see it, I really would. I'd especially like to see it if they had a version for GSM carriers (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSPA), a version for CDMA carriers (1x, EVDOr0, EVDOr1), and a WiMAX version. But I really doubt that's what Nokia is doing.
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2008-02-06
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#133
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
The important question: how the hell is this any different than just carrying around a phone with your tablet? <_<
I'd like to see it, I really would. I'd especially like to see it if they had a version for GSM carriers (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSPA), a version for CDMA carriers (1x, EVDOr0, EVDOr1), and a WiMAX version. But I really doubt that's what Nokia is doing.
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2008-02-06
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#134
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Hopefully cheaper than a phone, I guess. And if it was WiFi, rather than BT, then there's comparatively few (and pricey) phones that could do it. Like this morning on engadget, it could help the poor little iPhone, too. Why either of these would motivate Nokia to produce one, of course, is an open question.
The important question: how the hell is this any different than just carrying around a phone with your tablet? <_<
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2008-02-06
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
1) Most of the US carriers don't have options for "0 voice service, unlimited data service" on your phone (T-mobile does, but only with smartphones).
The important question: how the hell is this any different than just carrying around a phone with your tablet? <_<
2) Most of the US carriers I've seen make unlimited data for your phone more expensive ($75-$110/mo. total, even with a dirt cheap voice plan). And that may or may not cover a tethering option. In comparison, the mobile router products, like Cradepoint's offering (and a couple other vendors), use data cards or USB dongles, which tend to get a reasonable flat rate unlimited service from the carriers ($40-$60/mo. total). Oh, and, at least with T-mobile, that unlimited internet tier covers using VOIP, so you don't need to ALSO carry a phone if you don't want to: just use Skype on your NIT (if you find Skype's quality to be good enough).
3) It uses Wifi for the bridge between your NIT and the network. This means you don't have worry about buying a phone that has Bluetooth DUN or PAN, and even if it does have DUN, wondering if it will actually work with the NIT. It also means that you can have more than one such device (a camera with that wifi SD card, for example).
4) Some bluetooth phones make you hit "OK" or something on every bluetooth connection, even if the devices were already paired and trusted the last time you connected them. This means you have to physically handle the gateway device every time you use it. With the PHS, you only have to touch it if it's not actually turned on. If it's in the bottom of your backpack, but on and just waiting for you, then you don't have to touch it at all.
That's how it's different from (and IMO, superior to) just carrying around your phone to tether with your NIT.
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2008-02-06
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#136
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Originally Posted by Benson
Yeah, an iPhone with VOIP (someone is making VOIP software for it, right?) and a PHS device doesn't need to be tied to AT&T (or the single blessed iPhone vendor in your country). Though, at that point, you might as well go with the iPod Touch instead of the iPhone.
Hopefully cheaper than a phone, I guess. And if it was WiFi, rather than BT, then there's comparatively few (and pricey) phones that could do it. Like this morning on engadget, it could help the poor little iPhone, too. Why either of these would motivate Nokia to produce one, of course, is an open question.
Might make it easy for Nokia to make money off of the people who love the iPhone/iTouch but hate AT&T.
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2008-02-06
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#137
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
That would indeed be very annoying. But that should also be considered a bug of the actual phone, and hopefully there aren't too many of those (it would also obviously make BT headsets quite tiring to use).
4) Some bluetooth phones make you hit "OK" or something on every bluetooth connection, even if the devices were already paired and trusted the last time you connected them. This means you have to physically handle the gateway device every time you use it. [..]
My cheap BT phone stays put in the pocket (a very small pocket), as it should be.
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2008-02-06
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#138
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
Somehow I don't think a device like this would be much cheaper.
2) Most of the US carriers I've seen make unlimited data for your phone more expensive ($75-$110/mo. total, even with a dirt cheap voice plan).
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2008-02-06
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#139
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Then you're not paying attention.
Somehow I don't think a device like this would be much cheaper.
Cradlepoint PHS + Sprint EVDO USB dongle == $60/mo. for unlimited and unfiltered data.
($50/mo if you qualify for SERO)
MUCH cheaper than paying Sprint for a dirt cheap minutes plan + unlimited "phone as modem" (then you're looking at $100/month or more, depending on which options you get).
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2008-02-06
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#140
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Great news! For me anyway. I just got added to the list of early testers for the wimax tablet. I can't wait! 
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