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2008-06-16
, 16:57
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@ Halifax, NS
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#132
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Well look at it now, the tablet comes with NO PIM, expecting you to have a good one on the phone. I had an older Samsung with a rotten PIM before, and wasn't frosted.
Here's an easy solution. Sync both to a Nokia phone by bluetooth and to an online web calendar. For other phone users, tell them they can visit the online calendar via phone browser or put the burden of downloading and syncing to the other handset manufacturer.
Instead of telling their own customers (tablet users) to suffer and use the online version they could tell other non-users to do so. Cater to their customers and make owning a tablet a preferable solution.
Major bonus points for making the online calendar open source and possible to host anywhere. Make "MobileMe" obsolete before it's even released!
Here's an easy solution. Sync both to a Nokia phone by bluetooth and to an online web calendar. For other phone users, tell them they can visit the online calendar via phone browser or put the burden of downloading and syncing to the other handset manufacturer.
Instead of telling their own customers (tablet users) to suffer and use the online version they could tell other non-users to do so. Cater to their customers and make owning a tablet a preferable solution.
Major bonus points for making the online calendar open source and possible to host anywhere. Make "MobileMe" obsolete before it's even released!
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2008-06-16
, 17:39
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@ norway
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#133
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i wonder what happened to whoever it was that was working on getting opensync going on the tablets...
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2008-06-16
, 18:43
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#134
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The NIT isn't even in the same league as Palm for PIMs. There are tons of Palm apps that are very useful, even essential, on a handheld device. OTOH, no Palm is in the same league as an NIT for web browsing. Web browsing is the only thing the NIT does well, and it's entirely a software problem. I too am stuck carrying a Palm, and rarely even bother with my N800 because my EeePC does everything else much better. Until a real, robust, and syncable PIM suite is available, the NIT is just a toy.
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2008-06-16
, 21:48
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@ Mableton, GA USA
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#135
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Originally Posted by Wzrd
Wow. I'm finding the opposite experience, but I suspect I'm coming from an older Palm world (m105's, IIIc's, and Fossil Abacus, all running either PalmOS 3.5.x or 4.x).
Garnet still sucks. It STILL does not run the apps I use on my regular palm like Trip Deluxe and just crashes when I try to run it.
Anyways, Garnet still sucks. I still have yet to find any of the handful of apps/games which I use all the time on my palm that will run without crashing on Garnet.
I'd pay US$50 for Garnet's VM as it stands now on my 770.
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2008-06-17
, 13:45
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@ Halifax, NS
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#136
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Originally Posted by rcsteiner
Does the sound work or crash the VM?
In my case, the following seem to work fine: Parens, Calcul8!, BigCLock, DateBk3, PalmDB, EZFtp, Xiino, List, IdeaPad, PalmBio, Progect, PTally, pTelnet, QuikBudget, TikTok,. and WWCalc. I have a list of about 20 games loaded which also work (Yahdice, Vexed, PocketChess, Patience, Crossword, MicroFlexx, Rally 1000, Hearts, Cribbage, etc.).
I'd pay US$50 for Garnet's VM as it stands now on my 770.
I miss Rally 1000....
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2008-06-18
, 13:28
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#137
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
This is the best conclusion there is. Nothing replaces a real native Palm OS device. Unless Garnet VM would offer full compability, manage sound correctly, wifi, bluetooth, hotsync, etc. I can't remember how many times I transfered all my stuff from my Sony
The NIT isn't even in the same league as Palm for PIMs. There are tons of Palm apps that are very useful, even essential, on a handheld device. OTOH, no Palm is in the same league as an NIT for web browsing. Web browsing is the only thing the NIT does well, and it's entirely a software problem. I too am stuck carrying a Palm, and rarely even bother with my N800 because my EeePC does everything else much better. Until a real, robust, and syncable PIM suite is available, the NIT is just a toy.
TH55 to another device ( N810 or other ), trying hard to get away without the TH55 and then getting back very soon to it, because I was missing too many features..
The real question is : can Access come out with a viable Garnet VM ? Is it technically possible at all?
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2008-06-18
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@ Texas/Earth/Sol System/Milky Way/Local Group/Hubble Bubble/Infinity
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#138
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Hi all;
While I agree that Garnet VM is not a replacement for power-Palm users and needs improvement, it does most of everything I need:
* I mostly used the Contacts and Memos. Because the Palm puts everything into an internal DB, not files, the "search" function pops you right into the line in the memo you are looking for. That one Palm app is essential to me, and having it on my Nokia instantly improved my productivity.
* I do use the Calendar and to-do a lot, but don't reply on either for alarms. For appointment alarms, I've been using the corporate calendar/email to send a text message to my phone - a small, light, super-reliable Samsung r500 with extended battery that lasts me about 1 week between charges. Lack of sound is not a big problem for me, and on my old Zire I would not always hear the alarms.
* The handwriting recognition works as fast as it does on the real Palm. I've been using Jot for so long I can write almost as fast as I can actually print with a pencil - far faster than I can type on the horrible n810 keyboard.
* My few custom apps - ip calc, etc. - ported over fine
Before I installed Garnet my n810 was mostly a surf toy combined with a very nice way to ssh and vnc to my servers. Now it is all that plus I have my PIM back! Hooray!
Steve
While I agree that Garnet VM is not a replacement for power-Palm users and needs improvement, it does most of everything I need:
* I mostly used the Contacts and Memos. Because the Palm puts everything into an internal DB, not files, the "search" function pops you right into the line in the memo you are looking for. That one Palm app is essential to me, and having it on my Nokia instantly improved my productivity.
* I do use the Calendar and to-do a lot, but don't reply on either for alarms. For appointment alarms, I've been using the corporate calendar/email to send a text message to my phone - a small, light, super-reliable Samsung r500 with extended battery that lasts me about 1 week between charges. Lack of sound is not a big problem for me, and on my old Zire I would not always hear the alarms.
* The handwriting recognition works as fast as it does on the real Palm. I've been using Jot for so long I can write almost as fast as I can actually print with a pencil - far faster than I can type on the horrible n810 keyboard.
* My few custom apps - ip calc, etc. - ported over fine
Before I installed Garnet my n810 was mostly a surf toy combined with a very nice way to ssh and vnc to my servers. Now it is all that plus I have my PIM back! Hooray!
Steve
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2008-06-19
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@ South Florida
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#139
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Originally Posted by stevecrye
How true!
Hi all;
While I agree that Garnet VM is not a replacement for power-Palm users and needs improvement, it does most of everything I need:
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Before I installed Garnet my n810 was mostly a surf toy combined with a very nice way to ssh and vnc to my servers. Now it is all that plus I have my PIM back! Hooray!
Steve
I've missed my Palm PIM. But while I'd got GPE and Ermnig working - it had its own set of warts that made it effectively unusable with a very convoluted sync process (Outlook to Google to Erming).
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2008-06-19
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#140
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Hotsync fails for me when I have any user added applications. Is there a way to avoid this?
I'm not saying it'd be bad, but there would be people getting frosted about having a PIM that doesn't have full functionality with whatever phone they use.
I'm still not persuaded that they necessarily come out ahead that way, but it's certainly more likely than if they make a generic standalone PIM with no Nokia-phone integration...
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