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2009-08-13
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Originally Posted by qole
Funny. I would really admire a company you had the resources/time to do this. It would suck for end-users (until the hacks appeared), but for a company to invest in learning/altering Linux like that, well... It would be pretty amazing.
I guess the carrier could butcher the system and then use a special SIM card that checks that you're running the butchered OS (and refusing to work unless you are)...
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2009-08-13
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
In Mexico it's pretty much impossible to get an unlock code from a carrier. At least I've never been successful when tried.
Pretty standard practice in the UK, actually. During the lifetime of a contract you will be asked to pay a nominal fee (£10-£20 max) to unlock the contract phone, and the network operator will often unlock the phone at no charge once the contract is up (it's now your phone, your property, the operator has no legal right to restrict your usage of that phone any longer).
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2009-08-13
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What I see as being more of a problem is if the radio for 3G only supports the frequencies of T-Mobile's network and not AT&T's then it wont really matter if it can be unlocked because you still won't be able to use the 3G connection with AT&T. Maybe I am not understanding how the radios are designed but if that hardware doesn't work with your provider's network unlocking is irrelevant.
I have an N810 that I have with me almost all the time. I don't mind having a separate phone but can understand why some people might. I think a tablet/phone combination is a good idea to have but would prefer a pure tablet with the same or slightly larger screen as my N810.
I have an N810 that I have with me almost all the time. I don't mind having a separate phone but can understand why some people might. I think a tablet/phone combination is a good idea to have but would prefer a pure tablet with the same or slightly larger screen as my N810.
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2009-08-13
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@ England
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Originally Posted by Cadabena
Orange also asked me for £20 to unlock a PAYG phone. They also said I would have to wait three months, even though I'd had the phone with them for two years (because I hadn't actually registered my details with Orange). So, like you, I got mine unlocked at a dodgy (but legal) back-street shop for £12.50.
Lucky you! when I wanted to unlock my Orange PAYG phone, they said I'd have to have £20 of credit on, and it would happen within three months!
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2009-08-13
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Originally Posted by timsamoff
Then you'll LOVE this:
Funny. I would really admire a company you had the resources/time to do this. It would suck for end-users (until the hacks appeared), but for a company to invest in learning/altering Linux like that, well... It would be pretty amazing.
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Wasn't WebOS based on Linux, as I recall? Also.. Isn't the "phone stack" in Maemo 5 supposed to be called 'ofono'? Is that phone stack opened up as open-source? I'll bet it's nooooot!
Originally Posted by tso
My sentiment exactly.
and thats why i "love" the usa == world that seems to be the norm in this forum...
still, i would love to see a phone-less device myself, as i have a perfectly fine phone already.
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2009-08-13
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Originally Posted by danramos
http://git.kernel.org/?p=network/ofo...03e06d;hb=HEAD
...'ofono'? Is that phone stack opened up as open-source? I'll bet it's nooooot!
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2009-08-13
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You can't have everything. If I want a Iphone but don't want to switch to AT&T then I have to pay a premium to get it unlocked and if I then want to use it on T-mobile I will be on edge only as the 3g bands are not compatible. This is how it works in the US market so I don't know what people are complaining about. As far as other countries I have no idea. Here the carriers want a exclusive phone to make people want to switch to them. You can pay an extra $50.00 to only have a one year contract with T-mobile and you can get another new phone at full discount in only 11 months. If you keep your phone in good shape you then can sell it on eBay for what you paid for it. That way you can always have the latest and greatest. This assumes the N900 turns out to be a popular phone. People are selling their used year old G1s for $200+ and $200 was the subsidized price. I am just happy that this phone looks like its really coming out. Bring it on!!
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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by dantonic
I think the annoyance is simply because you are not used to see the paradigm in that way.
I would have no problem at all with a device the size of my N800 or even slightly bigger with great video and sound, and also sporting full Phone capabilities.
In fact I would have preferred a bigger screen.
I wouldn't even feel embarrassed placing such device against my ear when making a call. :P
Of course it could always be used hands-free.
The N800 with the paired 3G phone is a bit annoying imo. A fully integrated single device as described above would be ideal for me.
If once connected you could put calls on the tablet, reply to calls, edit your S60/RX51 pim entries, use the phone multimedia files in Canola, etc, you'll simply would HAVE two phones in one. The Big one for winter time (the time you wear big pockets ;-) ) or at home, or when you walk around with a bag to put it on. The small for the rest of the day.
This is the paradigm of headsets for cars. Nobody asks for SIM-integrated phones in cars anymore. You pair your car-integrated headsets to your phone in your pocket.
I don't doubt you'll still preffer a bigger all in one machine. But I think most people could preffer the splitted paradigm once it is understood.
And this second paradigm makes nokia sell two devices a person!!
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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by epertinez
No,
I think the annoyance is simply because you are not used to see the paradigm in that way.
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And this second paradigm makes nokia sell two devices a person!!
The annoyance is because I don't want to have to mess with two devices... a phone which is basically just taking up space, and a tablet to do everything on.
It only makes sense to integrate the phone capability within the tablet itself.
I own an Ericsson TM506 currently, and it is always paired with my N800... even if I could do all my phone calls/sms on my N800, I would still be annoyed because I have to deal with a second device which would basically just be taking up space, has to be charged separately, and is doing nothing except to provide the functionality of the GSM radio.
My only gripe with the tablet coming out is that it seems to be a lot more phone like. I'll pass full judgment when I see it in action, but it appears to be more like an Iphone competitor rather than "The New Tablet with phone capabilities." The latter being what I would have rather seen, and would have used as my sole "bulky" cell phone without thinking twice about it!
I really hope that the RX-51 at least captures the spirit of the N800/N810, because if it captures the spirit of the Iphone instead, I might not buy it at all.
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