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2009-10-21 , 01:10
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#131
Originally Posted by CrashandDie View Post
Nice way to alienate any develop who reads this. A lot of people (read, developers, they're people too) spend a lot of time and effort writing applications, and enabling them with features they might not use or find useful, simply because people request them.

Attacking them with a "suck it up, you're just a coding animal" really isn't a very nice way of showing the respect they deserve. As always, features need to be weighed before they are considered into a project. Screen rotation is such a feature. Sometimes it can be beneficial, sometimes it doesn't make any sense at all. There's no unique rule, especially when you look at the wealth of different applications we have on this platform.
You're right, I presented that wrong. I should have said, developers who want to develop for maemo should see the benefits of portrait and ASR, and understand that although it may be a bit more tedious, that feature will take Maemo closer to the mainstream.

I apologize to all developers, I love you all.
 
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2009-10-21 , 01:14
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#132
I think developers should cater to the user, not just try to keep app development easy. What good is an app if its a pain to use the device? Shouldn't the main focus for a products producer be its consumers? Or themselves? As a businessman and entrepreneur, I don't see how folks don't get that. You live and die on your users, and if they're not happy, someone else will make them happy. I want MORE users, not easier times making apps for less of them.
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2009-10-21 , 01:17
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#133
Depends on what the developer's goal is. For example, sometimes the developer makes an application simply for himself/herself. If someone else finds it useful then great! If not, then oh well, it works for him/her.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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2009-10-21 , 01:23
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#134
Originally Posted by CrashandDie View Post
Nice way to alienate any develop who reads this. A lot of people (read, developers, they're people too) spend a lot of time and effort writing applications, and enabling them with features they might not use or find useful, simply because people request them.

Attacking them with a "suck it up, you're just a coding animal" really isn't a very nice way of showing the respect they deserve. As always, features need to be weighed before they are considered into a project. Screen rotation is such a feature. Sometimes it can be beneficial, sometimes it doesn't make any sense at all. There's no unique rule, especially when you look at the wealth of different applications we have on this platform.
I agree, CrashandDie, but the developers have to follow the same creed. If you expect to be treated with respect, you must give it. I'm not talking about you or anyone in particular, but everyone in general.

I was mostly offended because at SF and MF, we treat developers like gods and rockstars. Ask Sittiphol Phanvilai, FCA00000, Dr. Jukka, Wook, Samir Oueldi, and various others we honor as legends, and donate money to help them buy devices, pay bills, drink beer and coffee, and enjoy something for their hard work. I want to name my first child Sitti Samir McFann for my two favorite developers. If they put dev's faces on trading cards, I could sell mounds of them, and many guys decide to become devs because of the respect we bestow on them in our community.

I can tell there are hundreds of those guys here, maybe even more talented, but they should learn that the users are the ones that will make them live on in infamy, and make their apps and projects household names. I approach this place with much respect, because this is the Nokia version of xda, and I think its better. We all need each other, so when users make suggestions, remember, its just a suggestion, and if you can't or don't want to implement it, maybe someone else will.
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2009-10-21 , 01:24
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#135
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
Depends on what the developer's goal is. For example, sometimes the developer makes an application simply for himself/herself. If someone else finds it useful then great! If not, then oh well, it works for him/her.
Maemo's apps are like that many times, I've learned. Well that needs to change. Think community. This OS is open, and the community provided to serve YOU, so giving back with the community in mind will make for better experiences and apps for everyone.
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@chris: how long have you been in this 'open sauce' business?
i suggest you delve a bit deeper and longer before pushing your foot further in your mouth with all these baseless cheerleading talk
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thanks for the suggestion, ysss. I'll tastefully ignore it. And by the way, why don't you delve a little deeper into my experience level and knowledge of the smartphone market after you push your foot in your own mouth? I'm neither a cheerleader, nor someone who speaks on subjects that are baseless, but a longtime promoter of mobile technology. Why not ask the various folks who know about mobiles and my relationship with its various communities about me, because I promise you don't know much about me.

I find you to be offbase, but when you have something useful to add, I'm all ears. It takes alot of energy to be a force, more to be a movement, but little to be a jerk. More energy, or just focus on someone else.
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2009-10-21 , 02:15
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#138
why must God test me with fools? I'm trying to let guys like ysss make it, but some guys just have to be haters with nary an encouraging word.

If ysss is so bothered by my words, please help him ignore them. He has a TV, PC, and mobile devices to play with, right?
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2009-10-21 , 02:18
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now that I think about it, why do you say I put my foot in my mouth? And why do you call me a cheerleader? Do you not know any mobile tech promoters? You should appreciate anyone working to promote your favored OS, shouldn't you?
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#140
@ysss, you seem like a developer... I love you.
 
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