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2009-11-08 , 02:08
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#131
Originally Posted by cb474 View Post
I agree about the point that putting a phone in a jacket probably doesn't help.

But the first point, I don't think is right. My understanding is that the electromagnetic radition is most powerful (and harmful) within a very small space near it's source. In the case of a cell phone, this is a sphere about six inches in radius. So the eletromagnetic radition emitted from other further away sources (and beaming all over us from space for that matter) is not of the same nature, nor bears with it the same safety concerns.
If you were taking just your own phone into account then yes it would. However, consider a crowded metro, such as the London tube system. studies conducted a couple of years ago showed an horrific level of cellular radiiation compared to on the streets. Cell phones ramping up to full power seeking a mast combined with the hemispherical metal ceilings for coaches had a wonderful effect of concentrating the emitted power to the middle of the carriage.
If you were referring to the passive radar though that is well documented in various papers.
 
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2009-11-08 , 02:14
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#132
Desperately trying to get back on topic...

Maybe the thickness is for secondary use? Paper-weight or door jam?
 
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2009-11-08 , 02:30
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#133
Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
If you were taking just your own phone into account then yes it would. However, consider a crowded metro, such as the London tube system. studies conducted a couple of years ago showed an horrific level of cellular radiiation compared to on the streets. Cell phones ramping up to full power seeking a mast combined with the hemispherical metal ceilings for coaches had a wonderful effect of concentrating the emitted power to the middle of the carriage.
Can you provide a link to those studies?

From my understanding that wouldn't produce the kind of radiation that's supposed to pose risks. And I'm wary of a lot of the information out there. Most of what you find on the internet is on real tinfoil hat wearing websites. Either that, or people trying to sell you some sort of protection device that is actually just crap or in some cases actually augments the bodies absorption of electromagnetic radiation.

I'm not trying to minimize the risk. I believe there may be real health risks to cell phone radiation. But there is a huge amount of mis-information out there. And many of the studies are carried out by news organizations or well meaning people, who don't really know what they're doing and get bogus results. The actually well conducted studies are few and far between and just starting to really get done.
 
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2009-11-08 , 03:01
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#134
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I wouldn't worry about the common mortals. They'll sooner or later die.
Do you and the other immortals rib Jesus about being a zombie? Also, what does Jesus think about Left 4 Dead 2?
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2009-11-08 , 08:51
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#135
Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
Its painfully obvious that Symbian cannot compete in 2009, especially after that POS N97. I see Maemo as their last chance before Nokia meet the same fate Palm did with the Palm OS (competitors eating their lunch. Eg Manufacturers going with Android, iphone, Pre).
Interesting that Nokia still has the largest share of the smartphone market, easily outstripping even Rim, their nearest competitor, and their chosen smartphone OS is symbian.

I don't think symbian is dead yet by any stretch of the imagination. Nokia's plan is to move symbian down a notch and target it at the slightly less technical/cash-splashing market. People who have never been able to afford a smartphone will jump at it arriving within their price range.

Meanwhile, there's reason to suspect that n900, far from being a failure because 'Average Joe' finds it too think/heavy/complex/whatever, has rather surprised Nokia with its success. And that before it's even shipped.

Will there be people who reject it on grounds of weight of size? Sure there will. People choose their device for a whole bundle of reasons. But there appear to be more than enough who're not put off to ensure that the Final Step is still on track.

And God and All Angels help this place when that release gets delayed.
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2009-11-08 , 09:16
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#136
Originally Posted by archzai View Post
I feel no one has complained about the size yet because it's hard to get a real feel without holding the real thing. Besides, videos dont give a good idea of the true thickness of the device. 19mm is always 2 cm, which is pretty damn thick.

I'm just a bit worried if the device is going to come off looking awkward because of the thickness. I sort of want this phone to become my everyday device too, but I'm afraid the device will bulge out a lot from my work pants or evening go-out jeans.
the proto was very sleek. much more smaller than what it appears when reading this thread...
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2009-11-08 , 23:30
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#137
Here's a (p)review from one of the lucky 300 who got units. Guess he's a iphone lover or not worthy enough to own an n900 since he brought up the battery and thickness/weight as disadvanages..

Disadvantages
--- Poor keyboard layout
--- No user call application
--- Weak battery
-- No tilt function
- Relatively heavy and thick
- Misty haze in flash photos

http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/toestellen/10892
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2009-11-08 , 23:48
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#138
I won't go into bulkiness, that's a subjective matter. Battery life is bad because a) not all apps are (yet) properly power-optimized and b) it's like a sportscar - it wants to be driven fast and at that point no battery is enough, 1320 vs 1500 would make no serious difference.

- Misty haze in flash photos
a) learn to keep your fingers out of the flash
b) paint the nice blue edge of the slider matte black
 
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2009-11-08 , 23:59
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#139
Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
Here's a (p)review from one of the lucky 300 who got units. Guess he's a iphone lover or not worthy enough to own an n900 since he brought up the battery and thickness/weight as disadvanages..

Disadvantages
--- Poor keyboard layout
--- No user call application
--- Weak battery
-- No tilt function
- Relatively heavy and thick
- Misty haze in flash photos

http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/toestellen/10892
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Interesting review. Also interesting that in his review of the Droid he fails to mention ANY of the things pretty much every reviewer has talked about.

Bad Camera.
Bad Battery Life
Flex within the keyboard etc

Once again you have trolled the net to find the one review in (lets say) 30 that has a bad view point - seriously WHY are you buying this phone. ARE you even buying this phone. You are beyond a nay saying whiner, one suspects you may even work for another company the amount of FUD you have been spreading around here.
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2009-11-09 , 00:07
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#140
Originally Posted by Bratag View Post
Once again you have trolled the net to find the one review in (lets say) 30 that has a bad view point - seriously WHY are you buying this phone. ARE you even buying this phone. You are beyond a nay saying whiner, one suspects you may even work for another company the amount of FUD you have been spreading around here.
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm sorry that you're going to spend your entire monthly salary on this phone and it may not turn out to be best phone on earth for the next 3 years and have ZERO flaws.

I am buying this phone but I'm not fanatic enough not to recognize its flaws which I want Nokia to resolve in the next version (Which I will gladly buy even if its only 6 months from now)
 
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