Originally Posted by squirreluk

All the reviews i have seen say this phone is great,so are you saying these have all been written by nokia to trick us into buying the phone? I only bought the thing because of the good reviews.

Originally Posted by iJanne

Look, clearly there are two separate issues here.

One is what the N900 was supposed to be and what it is. Sure, it has some bugs that still need ironing out, but feature-wise it is what was announced and communicated to us. Many people seem to be disputing this or ignoring this, but I consider it indisputable fact.

Second, obviously, is how the N900 is perceived to be - and how any marketing from Nokia, media attention or public's expectations play towards forming this perception. I agree Nokia should communicate this better. And I do think a lot people buying or considering one have done lowsy research into their product choice and are *****ing partly in result of their own laziness.

I don't agree N900 is missing something it was announced to have. N900 is pretty much how it was announced and doing what it is supposed to do. But if someone is ignorant of the press releases and announcements, and just reads Nokia.com shop listings their expectations might lead them to believe the N900 to be more than it is. Not that the Nokia.com is untrue (when I read it with my expectations it doesn't seem to claim anything untowardly), it is just people expect the N900 to have things nobody is actually claiming it to have.

Originally Posted by God

You're just naive.

1: You can't rely 100% on a personal belief

2: Don't get sucked into the media & technology now a days, they take your money like hot pancakes

3: I never said it wasn't a good phone, I said it's not offering enough experience on either side mobile/computer. It should have came out later, with better features & childhood syndromes being fixed.

Originally Posted by iJanne

Look, I'm an Apple fan, first and foremost.

Yet even I knew what the N900 was and was not, with a few minutes of research beforehand.

It bugs me people do absolute no research and then are annoyed when the thing isn't what they expected.

It is perfectly clear what the N900 is and is not when one understands the Nokia Internet Tablet/mobile computer line of products and the Maemo 4 of 5 step.

I do agree some of the PR stuff Nokia has done is confusing, but that doesn't change the N900s design goals which clearly did not define a consumer-grade smartphone, but instead a mobile computer with phone functionality.

That is why it is step 4 of 5. Next step is the consumer smartphone. Nokia told us all this, months beforehand.

Deny this all you want, won't make it untrue, though.

If anything, this is definitely NOT marketing ********. If anything, it is the marketing ******** and media attention that has muddied this issue. The roadmap and device specs announced and communicated outside of marketing ******** clearly support my position.

Originally Posted by squirreluk

Why worry about cost 12 months down the line some muppet will still buy it off ya for £350.

Originally Posted by sevla

I wish people would stop repeating this marketing ********. It's a damn phone, end of story. All this "mobile computer" crap is non-sense and a poor attempt at creating a new marketing gimmick.

It's shaped like mobile phone it looks like a mobile phone it rings when people cAll me and I can call people on it. Stop using this " it's not a phone it's a mobile computer" as an excuse to have BASIC PHONE features not work properly or non existent all together.

Nokia really has some of you brainwashed and it's scary.