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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by moo
yes, it was in 1995. but now it is 2010 and if you need mms, you can get them basically free. i am paying 10 euros from 1000x sms + 1000x mms + slowest 3g flatrate per month. average price of slowest 3g flatrate is here... ...about 10 euros...
My intention was not personal attack against anyone, but rather an argument that the invention of MMS in the first place was to make an easy option for operators to invoice extra.
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool
Is there a bug reported or brainstorm for it?
Right now it's quite annoying to use the volume key lol.
- i agree, would be useful
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2010-01-03
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nokia make money from basic to mid range phones.. the n900 is a prototype in all essence and we are the guinea pigs..
if people want basic functions then this wasnt the phone for them in the first place.
yes mms would be fine.. but there seems to be a trend amongst the people that want mms.
if people want basic functions then this wasnt the phone for them in the first place.
yes mms would be fine.. but there seems to be a trend amongst the people that want mms.
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2010-01-03
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"Outside the UK, I have this strange thing called 'a tongue in my head'. If i get lost, I ask. Try it some time, you might find you like it. It's amazing how people like being helpful if you ask politely!
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really, thats helpfull..
you know what lets just knock gps on the head then, its not needed is it.
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really, thats helpfull..
you know what lets just knock gps on the head then, its not needed is it.
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool
Oh I have absolutely no doubts about the N900
Though the N900 is not a complete device when its released, but it is still the best device i've seen so far. Beyond what the iPhone and Android phones capable. The unfinished product is this good... So why are we doubting about the finalised product software?Just take a bit of time to fine tune it before it becomes the must have device.
I would love to see the on screen ZOOM scroll bar or invisible scroll bar for Pictures though though. Right now it's quite annoying to use the volume key lol.
That's why I've bought it the day of it's release, knowing what will be functionning or not.My point was only to say that if there are missing functionnalities, that's only because nokia hadn't the time to implement them, not a marketing decision to release the N900 without MMS because MMS sucks or MMS is too old or nobody use MMS today or I don't know what poor excuse a lot of people try to argue for the lack of MMS support.
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by ravioli156
I think you are abselutely right. In Sweeden and Denmark too I think, the N900 will not come out officially intill the next FW update? It is planned for mid January, but no confirmation, so it is probably going to be delayed, 1 month - 2? who knows.
I don't think it's marketing but economical. I think nokia was in hurry to launch the N900, they were so late I think the software was not ready already to be launched but they had to launch it anyway so that's why it's not polished as we expect it. (no mms, no portrait mode, email client with the minimal options, no call history, no office viewer, OVI store not ready, OVI suite that don't even recognize the N900, no way to sort the icons of applications installed or to organize them in folder, and I don't even speak of the numerous bugs)
But had they choice ? The N900 is a sort of 'last chance' phone, they couldn't afford to delay the launch again of 3 or 4 months and miss Xmas...
The N900 is still nice, due to well thought out UI and multitasking, but I have had mine for almost a month now, and it is miles away from being a refined product, with the exception of the browser. The Linux kernel doesn't even work properly with the Omap3 processor. Maybe some Linux die-hards will say that it is not supposed to be a refined product, but I don't think Nokia can afford anything else. The N900 is viewed as a top of the line phone from Nokia and should work straight out of the box with every communication technology possible. Anything else will mean less sales and bad publicity that will transfer to all other Nokia devices. If Nokias intentions are to use the N900 as a toy for the technology enthusiast, then they have done an extremely poor job in marketing it that way. It is marketed as a device that does everything, and does it super fast and super cool.
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2010-01-03
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bsving you have it in one..
thats the problem this phone is marketed like an iphone or android etc.therefore people are buying it thinking its all singing and dancing. it isnt finished yet.. and although alot of us realise this.. we will still get many more buying this phone like kathy whinging that it doesnt act like my last phone..
its nokias fault- cater for the mass market and market it as such, or dont...BUT dont con people
Last edited by mysticrokks; 2010-01-03 at 10:39.
thats the problem this phone is marketed like an iphone or android etc.therefore people are buying it thinking its all singing and dancing. it isnt finished yet.. and although alot of us realise this.. we will still get many more buying this phone like kathy whinging that it doesnt act like my last phone..
its nokias fault- cater for the mass market and market it as such, or dont...BUT dont con people
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by ravioli156
Yes the MMS is essential to have but not what Nokia have in mind at the moment. It has more problems to solved than to implementing MMS but it will be port to N900 very soon I guess. I personally do not use MMS since my last Nokia 6680 lol. It can be very handy sometimes but cost a lot to use.
Oh I have absolutely no doubts about the N900
My point was only to say that if there are missing functionnalities, that's only because nokia hadn't the time to implement them, not a marketing decision to release the N900 without MMS because MMS sucks or MMS is too old or nobody use MMS today or I don't know what poor excuse a lot of people try to argue for the lack of MMS support.
Nokia just doesn't have the time to finishing up the functionality because they wanted to get a piece of the market share rather than wait for the final release and then everything is too late. Beside if they have waited just another few months to release the device, they will lose a very large amount of customers to competitors like Apple and Android. So they made the right move for the time being.
I must admit that the screen coated quality of the N900 is poorly made. Easily scratch from just cleaning it with micro-fibre cloth. Mine has like 5 noticeable scratches. And I am right now using an Iphone 3GS screen protector cut to fit my N900. It lost about 15% sensitivity but i don't mind as long I don't get any more scratch
As for MMS is nice to have in case of emergency
like when your wife or family member gave birth to a new born baby then you want to share it around quickly to relatives over the country or outside Handy indeed
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2010-01-03
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool
I agree, it's a great device already. I'm using mine a lot, in ways I didn't expect to.
The unfinished product is this good... So why are we doubting about the finalised product software?
I think the lingering doubts are because there's no believable Roadmap from Nokia. Nobody knows if the product will remain like this, somewhat unpolished in these areas forever, or if they are going to turn the great potential into something better.
We talk about it's potential, but we don't know if it will always be just potential.
Sure, it looks like the Maemo platform will improve, but at the high price the N900 costs, with such potential but rather unpolished in areas, everyone who bought an N900 wants to know there are coming improvements on their N900, not just Nokia's future product line.
Nobody knows what to expect, Nokia aren't being clear about it, and these are relatively closed parts of the software so the community can't easily take over. So in the vacuum there's doubt, worry, uncertainty expressed in the form of hopeful wishlists and unhappy complaints.
Let's face it, Nokia has a history of releasing devices and then more or less abandoning them. There's talk of Maemo being a bit different, in the same way that Apple and Android offer greater continuity after release, but we haven't seen if that's meaningful yet or just optimistic community rumour.
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I would love to see the on screen ZOOM scroll bar or invisible scroll bar for Pictures though though. Right now it's quite annoying to use the volume key lol.