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kureyon is offline kureyon
2012-02-12 , 15:23
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#131
Originally Posted by SamGan View Post
that any manufacturer who wants to package its OS (Windows or MSDOS) drop other competing OS.
Another of their illegal acts was to charge manufacturers for each machine shipped whether or not it was supplied with an MS OS - MS's assumption being that surely no customer would be silly enough to install a superior non-MS OS on a no-OS machine, and hence they must be installing unlicensed copies of MS OS on those machines and so the manufacturers must be made to pay.

Even the mighty IBM, hitherto the masters of unfair competition, had to kowtow to MS when the latter threatened to withhold selling Win95 to IBM.
 

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qorax is offline qorax
2012-02-12 , 15:26
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#132
N9's video capability

And here's daylight video recording by vimeo:


Note: the Nokia N9 used was pre-production and did not have the final version of the phone firmware.

Qorax
 
slansr is offline slansr
2012-02-12 , 15:30
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#133
Originally Posted by qorax View Post
Sir, any S/V enthusiast would know that capturing 'details' @ low-light is far tedious/problematic for a sensor than in daylight... even if its a CCD or CMOS.
i meant information size. Take a video during the day and it will be bigger in size because there's more information to capture therefore you need good software and hardware to process a lot of information.
 
slansr is offline slansr
2012-02-12 , 15:38
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#134
Originally Posted by qorax View Post
N9's video capability

And here's daylight video recording by vimeo:


Note: the Nokia N9 used was pre-production and did not have the final version of the phone firmware.

Qorax
can your n9 actually record like that? Also if you just hold the camera still many phones will do good all you have to do is choose the right light and position and just hold still in my video i move around and it doesnt look too good. The lumia does better, at least with the movements..
 
GrimyHR is offline GrimyHR
2012-02-12 , 15:43
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#135
Originally Posted by slansr View Post
http://t.co/aEAbzgG4

ive no idea how to add an image here in full resolution so i tried my best using twitter, i also broke my sd card so had to take this using my iphone, the difference in real life is actually bigger than on this image, hope you can all see it properly. Its in order from left to right: N9, Lumia 800, Samsung galaxy s2 (just put it there dont judge it too much because its running an unreleased ics and also has three different colour modes which look very different and makes bright images in the browser dimmer and "less white" to save battery, i tried to switch all those features off but maybe i missed some.. in my opinion the lumia looks the best..)
all on max brightness and yes ive switched off the autobrightness setting on the n9.
the first two whites look white, the third is not white but blue and by far the worst...
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2012-02-12 , 15:48
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#136
Originally Posted by slansr View Post
yeah they all do.. n9 is just worse.
i used to think lumia's white was bad after the iphone but when i got the n9 i discovered a new low. It probably pays up in sunlight.. but i can only go by memory right now and cant compare both phones atm because there isnt much sun i remember both being pretty good though.
LOL that's rubbish, a panel, is a panel, is a panel...

There's huge variations between the N9's panels, & the same is true for the L800's.
The tint, pinkishness, & poor whites you're referring to are well explained in the epic N9 display thread.
It is something that the L800 is most definitely not immune to.

You seem to be making-up FUD in some of your posts, I don't think it's intentional, just misinformed.
This is exactly what I said would happen, which is why this thread belongs in the competitors sub-forum.
It's not even truly informative anymore.....
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slansr is offline slansr
2012-02-12 , 16:02
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#137
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
LOL that's rubbish, a panel, is a panel, is a panel.
There's huge variations between the N9's panels, & the same is true for the L800's.
You seem to be making-up FUD in some of your posts, I don't think it's intentional, just misinformed.
This is exactly what I said would happen, which is why this thread belongs in the competitors sub-forum.
It's not even truly informative anymore.....
mate maybe there is a variation with different phones im only comparing the ones i have on the tests that ive done. so relax im not making anything up just trying to be helpful..
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2012-02-12 , 16:10
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#138
I'm sure you are genuinely trying to be helpful...
But with no qualifiers accompanying your observations (where needed).
It's actually totally misinforming/misleading people.
 
slansr is offline slansr
2012-02-12 , 16:15
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#139
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
I'm sure you are genuinely trying to be helpful...
But with no qualifiers accompanying your observations (where needed).
It's actually totally misinforming/misleading people.
i guess it might appear so. I really have no reason to mislead people i'll try to updload as much evidence i can get later on so that people dont feel mislead.
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2012-02-12 , 16:15
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#140
Originally Posted by slansr View Post
can your n9 actually record like that? Also if you just hold the camera still many phones will do good all you have to do is choose the right light and position and just hold still in my video i move around and it doesnt look too good. The lumia does better, at least with the movements..
DD confirmed there was issues with the motion algorithm & would be corrected.
Can't recall where it was now, think it may have been this article or in the comments, well worth reading the entire thing.
http://shootspeak.com/2011/10/07/2-c...ung-galaxy-s2/
Also, having no 2-stage camera button, I think the N9's slightly more susceptible to handshake.
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