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2007-09-14 , 12:37
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#131
Originally Posted by brendan View Post
if the issue was every firmware being at fault, why did the previous firmware with fanoush's patch not kill any of my cards? as far as i have read on this forum, the dead card issue occurred when people flashed with the current, skype enabled firmware.
My first 8GB card corrupted with previous firmware and SDHC patched kernel... I think that most people bought their bigger cards because of the new firmware (and out of the box "sdhc support"). Bug 1204 was opened in april!
 
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2007-09-14 , 12:49
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#132
Originally Posted by brendan View Post
if the issue was every firmware being at fault, why did the previous firmware with fanoush's patch not kill any of my cards? as far as i have read on this forum, the dead card issue occurred when people flashed with the current, skype enabled firmware.

I never had a problem, in 2 years until this last firmware, under which my cards lasted about 2 weeks before seeing failures
 
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2007-09-14 , 12:50
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#133
Originally Posted by N770-Freak View Post
My first 8GB card corrupted with previous firmware and SDHC patched kernel... I think that most people bought their bigger cards because of the new firmware (and out of the box "sdhc support"). Bug 1204 was opened in april!
That is the first report I heard of having corruption issue with either the SDHC patch (earlier firmware) or the MMC Plus patch (current firmware). Personally I have had no issues with my 8GB Patriot SDHC card with either of the patches. In addition the (now fried, due to testing in another N800 with stock Nokia kernel!) 4GB non-SDHC card worked fine with with patched kernels.
 
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2007-09-14 , 13:16
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#134
i bought my A-Data 8 Giggers shortly after i got my N800. i held off on the purchase until i was confident in my abilities to get the sdhc patch working. i made sure i was well read on the threads here and then i got the n800 and within a week got the 2 sdhc cards.

i ran on the previous firmware + sdhc patch wtihout issue for several months. i read in another thread that heavy i/o has corrupted a kingston card but not botched it beyond repair, as of yet. i have done that kind of heavy i/o with both the current and previous firmwares and only the current one has killed my cards.
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2007-09-14 , 13:46
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#135
Let's rephrase the question: Is there any instance of someone having an irreversible card corruption (any card, SD or SDHC) who had not installed the Fanoush SDHC kernel, the new Nokia firmware, or possibly both (ISTR Fanoush made a speed patch for the new firmware).

Remember, we're talking dead cards here. As stated previously, an I/O error can corrupt a card's file system, but this should always be solveable by reformatting.
 
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2007-09-14 , 13:49
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#136
Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
Karl, mine work fine, the only time I see issues is when large amounts of data are being written. For example untarring 200-300mb file, when in those high IO situations, I see reboots and data coruption about 50% of the time. When I am not dumping large tar files my cards seem to work fine.

Its a firmware problem, that needs to be addressed by Nokia!!! I am just running fsck on boot everytime on my mounted partition
Do those I/O errors leave your cards dead. As in: not repearable?

I think we should make a clear distinction between cards that get corrupted, but can be fixed by reformatting, and cards that get dead, and stay dead. The former is a nuisance, the latter is inexcusable.
 
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2007-09-14 , 13:59
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#137
Originally Posted by Mara View Post
That is the first report I heard of having corruption issue with either the SDHC patch (earlier firmware) or the MMC Plus patch (current firmware). Personally I have had no issues with my 8GB Patriot SDHC card with either of the patches. In addition the (now fried, due to testing in another N800 with stock Nokia kernel!) 4GB non-SDHC card worked fine with with patched kernels.
I tested one of my 1 GB cards (that doesn't work correctly in external slot) with both kernels (original vs. patched). I couldn't notice any differences (except transfer speed)!!! Input/Output errors occured also with patched kernel!

We shouldn't forget that the difference between firmwares is bigger than just the kernel! And the difference between the original and patched kernel is very small. I don't think that nokia didn't test the patched kernel...
 
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2007-09-14 , 13:59
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#138
in my experience the former (card corruption) is the pre-cursor to the latter (card death), but i have done the steps you look to pare out of the grouping...
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2007-09-14 , 14:15
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#139
Originally Posted by brendan View Post
in my experience the former (card corruption) is the pre-cursor to the latter (card death), but i have done the steps you look to pare out of the grouping...
+1
It's hard to differentiate these two possible cases!
You won't get an input/output error if everything works fine! Two of my three (physically) corrupted sdhc cards weren't immediately dead. First problems (filesystem corruption) were solveable with fsck. Than I had to reformat them. Until they died. RIP.
 
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2007-09-14 , 14:32
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#140
All of my cards fried under an earlier version of the firmware. Two of them seem to be permanantly DOA. Also, I'm very glad to see this post has progressed so far and so long and that finally it seems to be getting some attention.

Thanks to all who have read it, added to it and pushed it forward
 
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