most certainly, and i just did...looks ok for starters and i have the top panel too which seems to be working now. closed a few times and reopened and looks good, so does the keyboard focus. much thanks...

pardon me and this probably is not the place but do you think you would be able to help with:\
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...oomberg&page=2

Good that it proved to be no more than a fluke apparently!

I watched the video on that post - that's amazing: a financial guy talking about Easy Debian helping him run software for his trade. He also says he would answer e-mails about how to do that, could he not be reached? I'm certainly incompetent here - I'm just a theoretical physicist and financially illiterate.

qole: what about merging the lxde.desktop and lxdefocus.desktop apps? I found it wasteful to have now two LXDE icons on the desktop and therefore simply hacked fixkbdfocus to have
Now I can use the lxdefocus app for both, launching LXDE in the first place and regaining focus later. Perhaps a more proper version of that could go into 0.9.50? E.g., by having a generic script fixkbdfocus and one called fixlxdefocus which differs just by the above hack?

EDIT: while editing, you already made the last point yourself!

EDIT2: I've now replaced all debbie calls in that script by debbie-sue's. That reduces the errors I get with my locales settings and as you know I'm generally running all apps with su -.

rebhana: good point. I should have another script that runs either the LXDE startup script or the fixkbdfocus script depending on whether LXDE is running...

I've put 0.9.49 into Extras-Testing, but maybe I'll rush out a 0.9.50 version with the single LXDE icon to make things better.

Great! My hack is really just quick and dirty as it leaves a terminal window open in the background. I'm sure you'll come up with an elegant solution to that!

Sometimes it is really good to have a theoretical physicist who's "got your back".

Anyway, I've uploaded 0.9.50 to Extras-devel which features an LXDE icon that first tries to raise an existing LXDE window, and if it fails to find one, it will start a new LXDE session.

In the process of doing this, I've again improved the keyboard hack. The terminal is only started now for the actual keyboard hack, not for the whole script. So if you haven't started LXDE yet, the terminal won't show, and if you're trying to get keyboard focus, the terminal will only flash for a brief second.

I've kept the keyboard focus icon, for legacy purposes, but it really isn't needed anymore. You can use the LXDE icon for everything.

Thanks again, rebhana.

Works nice! Thank you all.

0.9.50 promoted to Extras-testing, first post updated.

Mark June 13th on your calendars. That's when the keyboard fix will be delivered to the masses.

I've installed and tested it. The first time I tried out fixing the keyboard by clicking on the LXDE icon again I ended up with LXDE in task manager again, but after that it always restored to full screen with working keyboard. I guess we shall get more statistics on that after June 13...

I've updated the wiki, pointing users already to Extras-testing. That will have to be cleaned up after June 13.

Since I was not completely successful in my push for "su -": in particular to those with non-English keyboards and having reconfigured locales I recommend to edit the new script /usr/bin/debwm and to replace "debbie" by "debbie-sue":
Without that localization will be incomplete and special characters from the keyboard won't display in ROXTerm, for instance. (OO and other applications don't seem to have a problem with the keyboard.)

Also for the Deb chroot terminal, replacing "sudo debian" by "sudo debsu" in /usr/share/applications/hildon/debchroot.desktop gets rid of lots of spurious warning messages when installing from the command line.

Actually, I recommed debbie-sue over debbie for everyone and everywhere as some additional programs that I have installed (zim, gramps) had problems to varying degrees without the "su -" and it's not clear to me that that's only because of localization.

qole, since you were reluctant to include "su -", with 0.9.50 in testing, perhaps it would be good to have 0.9.51 with the above changes provided through extras-devel. It would make it easier to point people with localization issues to extras-devel than to have them do all those editing by themselves. This way we might get more feedback on whether "su -" should be the default behavior in the future as users would have a convenient choice between the two setups.

i have just started to download easy debian, haven't used it before. now does the image loads three programs by default, how can i go about so only open office installs? are there any workarounds for that