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Originally Posted by attila77
I seem to recall reading that Tracker will be monitoring the user's home directory and removable media, not the entire file system. However, I'm not immediately finding a reference for that when I search.
Because not all media files in all directories are music and video supposed to be exposed to the user.
Regardless, trackerd supports simple directory inclusions and exclusions via its configuration file. Applications that install media files that should not be indexed into locations that otherwise will be, should add appropriate exclusions. Failure to do so will be a bug that should be reported to the application maker. And, should the application maker fail to deliver the necessary fix, I expect it would be a simple matter for someone else to make a tiny deb that adds the exclusion for the average, command line averse user.
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2009-04-21
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I think they are relying on inotify, so there's no actual heavy weight on the device, unless there's big activity in the monitored directories.
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2009-04-22
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My appologies for not reading all of the 1,443 previous posts 
Was printing support mentioned?
Was printing support mentioned?
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by YoDude
Odds are good that it was; however, printing support won't be coming from Nokia.
Was printing support mentioned?
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
I dont' want to sound too dismissive, but considering the platform (number of 3rd party apps) and common use-cases (how many applications have user-exposable media ?), this is the wrong solution. I'm certain applications should opt-in media files and not opt-out, especially if you operate on SD level. This is why fremantle / trackerd integration CAN be smart, files belonging to debs could and should automatically be ignored f.e. by the application installer (either directly or through MAFW if possible). Otherwise, chances are almost all of 'extras' will do it wrong at first, have a bug filed, have it corrected by the author or the community, make a patch, distribute it, make wikis about it, make sticky posts with giant letters addressing developers, maybe even making a patch to the garage autobuilder to this automatically because all of the above failed, etc. This could all be avoided with a proper approach in the beginning and it's not that hard to do.
I seem to recall reading that Tracker will be monitoring the user's home directory and removable media, not the entire file system. However, I'm not immediately finding a reference for that when I search.
Regardless, trackerd supports simple directory inclusions and exclusions via its configuration file. Applications that install media files that should not be indexed into locations that otherwise will be, should add appropriate exclusions. Failure to do so will be a bug that should be reported to the application maker. And, should the application maker fail to deliver the necessary fix, I expect it would be a simple matter for someone else to make a tiny deb that adds the exclusion for the average, command line averse user.
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by attila77
Since both projects are open and openly developed, why don't you go talk to their developers instead of wasting time speculating on it with too little information?
I dont' want to sound too dismissive, but considering the platform (number of 3rd party apps) and common use-cases (how many applications have user-exposable media ?), this is the wrong solution. I'm certain applications should opt-in media files and not opt-out, especially if you operate on SD level. This is why fremantle / trackerd integration CAN be smart, files belonging to debs could and should automatically be ignored f.e. by the application installer (either directly or through MAFW if possible). Otherwise, chances are almost all of 'extras' will do it wrong at first, have a bug filed, have it corrected by the author or the community, make a patch, distribute it, make wikis about it, make sticky posts with giant letters addressing developers, maybe even making a patch to the garage autobuilder to this automatically because all of the above failed, etc. This could all be avoided with a proper approach in the beginning and it's not that hard to do.
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I'll take it that this means you think it has some merit
Since both projects are open and openly developed, why don't you go talk to their developers instead of wasting time speculating on it with too little information?
I'm clueless what the proper place to go to would be, as it is a platform level decision.
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by attila77
No, I think it's silly to waste your and other people's time speculating on something (especially when that speculation seems to be turning into a downward spiral of negative assumptions) when the answer is but an email away.
I'll take it that this means you think it has some merit
What really bothers me is the tendency in this community to fall back on speculation (which often heads in a distinctly negative direction) even when concrete information is readily available.
Before you spend pages of posts in speculation, consider asking the devs first.
Originally Posted by attila77
The Tracker mailing list is here, and there are lots of possible contacts on the MAFW project page.
I'm clueless what the proper place to go to would be, as it is a platform level decision.
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Nah, we know you better than that, you said thank you in a GA way
No, I think it's silly to waste your and other people's time speculating on something (especially when that speculation seems to be turning into a downward spiral of negative assumptions) when the answer is but an email away.
I know, I know, you couldn't disagree more and fail to see any sense in that. Don't worry, it's ok 
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Before you spend pages of posts in speculation, consider asking the devs first.
DailyWTF courtesy of http://blogs.igalia.com/itoral/2009/...ublic/#respond
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