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Hi all
It seems "obvious" to me there should be a DUAL SIM option with the other half.
1- Not everyone wants this, but it's great for people who want a phone for personal and business, so it makes sense to have it as a add-on feature. Plus.. you can always leave that half at home when on holiday !
2- Some markets can only be addressed if you have dual sim, and these are huge markets : INDIA, CHINA, and even if smartphones might be to some extent too expensive, Africa and the middle east.
To be great, this other half should be able to snap in a extra SIM card, maybe extra battery life and stay compact.
Some people have already manufactured ipod touch cases which include one or even two sims.
So it's really doable and there is a huge market for this (again, some businness men + big countries such as india and china)
Hope this message finds the right people !
It seems "obvious" to me there should be a DUAL SIM option with the other half.
1- Not everyone wants this, but it's great for people who want a phone for personal and business, so it makes sense to have it as a add-on feature. Plus.. you can always leave that half at home when on holiday !
2- Some markets can only be addressed if you have dual sim, and these are huge markets : INDIA, CHINA, and even if smartphones might be to some extent too expensive, Africa and the middle east.
To be great, this other half should be able to snap in a extra SIM card, maybe extra battery life and stay compact.
Some people have already manufactured ipod touch cases which include one or even two sims.
So it's really doable and there is a huge market for this (again, some businness men + big countries such as india and china)
Hope this message finds the right people !
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Dual sim you people have realise that this means even more connnectors on other half? I doubt you will see that coming.
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Originally Posted by nicd
From an EE perspective I don't see how that can be done, at least without dedicated pins from cellmodem to OH, or with massive tweaks to the cmt firmware to talk to SIM via proxy on AP. [edit] AFAIK even Nokia discontinued their own cell modem branch, and I highly doubt Jolla has the manpower to develop and certify their own modem chip and FW, and they don't have the marketshare/volume to talk modem manufacturers into granting them access to cmt FW on a "do tweaks to it as you like" level.
Hi all
It seems "obvious" to me there should be a DUAL SIM option with the other half.
1- Not everyone wants this, but it's great for people who want a phone for personal and business, so it makes sense to have it as a add-on feature. Plus.. you can always leave that half at home when on holiday !
2- Some markets can only be addressed if you have dual sim, and these are huge markets : INDIA, CHINA, and even if smartphones might be to some extent too expensive, Africa and the middle east.
To be great, this other half should be able to snap in a extra SIM card, maybe extra battery life and stay compact.
Some people have already manufactured ipod touch cases which include one or even two sims.
So it's really doable and there is a huge market for this (again, some businness men + big countries such as india and china)
Hope this message finds the right people !
Well, there's a SIM remote access thing that might or might not be supported by the modem Jolla used on their phone. If such thing is available, it could get exploited.
That's exactly the problem with this OH concept: you can't do everything via a "USB" 4 pin connector.
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Jolla can save some cost and earn more money by removing the back camera, some people(like male teenagers serving national service in singapore) need that kind of non-camera smart phone in a certain workplace and army camp
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Originally Posted by youmeego
The camera is pretty bad so I'm sure its allowed
Jolla can save some cost and earn more money by removing the back camera, some people(like male teenagers serving national service in singapore) need that kind of non-camera smart phone in a certain workplace and army camp
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It's probably already decided that the other half will be a kind of backcover but if it was my decision, I would really split the phone in half, and put the camera and battery in the back. This would allow more upgradeability and really different configurations for different usecases. Want a cheap slim phone? Buy it with a 5mpix shooter and a small battery. Want a camera; get the 12mp protruding back with tripod mount. Back cover may also hold extra emmc.
It has it's drawbacks that backcovers won't be cheap, so getting more of them just to change colors won't be easy, but we have cases for that
It has it's drawbacks that backcovers won't be cheap, so getting more of them just to change colors won't be easy, but we have cases for that
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That makes so much sense it should be Tweeted directly to them...
Not that it really matters now, it's pretty clear it's going to be some kind of back-cover, but perhaps for the next ph it can be a consideration, if there is a next one.
Not that it really matters now, it's pretty clear it's going to be some kind of back-cover, but perhaps for the next ph it can be a consideration, if there is a next one.
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Originally Posted by qwazix
And EXTRA-BUTTONS, a lot of them. Operating a camera via touchscreen exclusively is a PITA
[...]Back cover may also hold extra emmc.
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw
yeah, THAT!
And EXTRA-BUTTONS, a lot of them. Operating a camera via touchscreen exclusively is a PITA
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