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#141
Originally Posted by chrisp7 View Post
You are just as insane. 'Queues in the US' means nothing globally. The reason Nokia are such a big player is due to their global foothold - they shat all over apple in handset sales because of their global reach. Im not saying the N900 has sold millions because it patently hasnt - just your argument is moot. Since when did you see queues for the N95?? And yet its sales have been millions, (possibly more than the iphone has sold).
Nokia's global foothold actually means Nokia's exploitation of 3rd world nations. Countries like India & China, continents like Africa will only settle for 256 color T9 keypad phones (like the ones Nokia is repackaging, rebranding, and not bothering upgrading since the year 2002) for a little while longer. Those places are wising up; they are catching on to the trends of the US, EU, and SouthEast Asia. The iPhone can do about half of what a N900 can do spec wise, but it can do that half quicker, easier, more responsively, & more reliably. The sales of the iPhone far surpass anything Nokia is doing in the high end. Nokia's entire Nseries (like 11 different phone models) sells less than iApple's one device does each quarter. The slow, calm, non-aggressive, complacent, & timid Finnish culture has let the aggressive, competitive North American culture assert its dominance with Android, iOS, webOS, & BlackberryOS. It took Nokia 6 months to get a software update to allow the forward facing camera to even work on the N900. Apple's horribly named 'FaceTime' will make any Nokia videocall look like a total joke when the iPhone 4 is released. By the time devices running MeeGo actually make it to market far less people will actually care. And those who do care will demand compatibility/interoperability between Android, iOS, and RIMM devices (essentially stealing away market share from Nokia's already slipping market share). People will want that new Meego TV/Navigation System/etc. to connect to more than just a MeeGo phone. They will want that MeeGo operating system (which they've never heard of) to be able to connect to their iPhone, Blackberry, Android, etc (which they already have). By the time the N8 is actually released in December the iPhone 4 will have already sold tens of millions of units. I mean congrats to Nokia for being the first in the world to make the first device that used Adobe Flash & the first device to truly use all global 3G frequencies. But those congrats should have come back in 2005. It's just too late in the modern age running at the speed of the internet. If you think lines (or queues) in the USA are irrelevant globally then you must be forgetting that the US is the financial capital of the world, the world's largest economy, invented the internet, dominates global social networking, and I could go on for pages. North America sets many trends that are worth paying 'some' attention to.
If you still think the richest nation in the world should be ignored, then ignore it. Instead look up the trends of iPhone adoption in South Korea-home to Samsung and LG. Look up iPhone dominance in Japan's smartphone market-the world's first 3G adopter and arguably world's most advanced cell phone market.
You'll be shocked.
If you think the N95 has sold more than the iPhone, you are out of touch with reality. Don't believe me? Check this link for a dose of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IP...ter_simple.svg

Last edited by Jeromeo; 2010-06-13 at 21:16.
 
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#142
people should consider that Nokia needs to market pile loads of mobile devices, while apple needs to market one mobile phone only, i mean okay, imagine if Nokia used all its powers to produce one mobile only and market it, it would shatter apple from the face of earth, that's my opinion

plus, N900 is made as a speciality mobile phone, not your usual one
 

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#143
Checkout this image comparing Nseries to iPhone from Reuters:
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/10/EZ_NKAPL20610.gif
 
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#144
Originally Posted by Jeromeo View Post
Checkout this image comparing Nseries to iPhone from Reuters:
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/10/EZ_NKAPL20610.gif
This doesn´t look too good after 2008.

But when it comes to think of it, what did Nokia do interesting, as far as pushing out a top of the line consumer friendly device, after the N95 which came out in early 2007? Nothing really.

Apple just pushed out video editing on the iphone. This is going to become quite popular I´m sure. Well my N95-1 that I received in April 2007 could do this as well. Any other N-series phone since then? Nope!

The N95 is as I see it still king amongst the N-series devices, if you look past the obvious internal memory size differences.

Last edited by olighak; 2010-06-25 at 19:57.
 
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#145
For Nokia N-series became niche product. They redefined smartphones for themselves. It is eg. 5800 family and they are selling sh*tloads of these.
 
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#146
Originally Posted by Jeromeo View Post
Checkout this image comparing Nseries to iPhone from Reuters:
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/10/EZ_NKAPL20610.gif
The entire graph is based on the assumption that MS is right. See the small text at the bottom of the graph. This is not even based on facts. I am sure the general trend is right, but the graph is worthless.
 
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