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In all of my dependency madness, I had to reinstall three times in the last four hours before I finally figured everything out, so it is possible to install now. You just have to be patient and possibly retry a lot. It *might* help if you have root access to be installing it directly using apt-get also, but I'm not certain that has any impact on anything (apt-get install canola2), other than giving you more information about what's going on.

The funny thing is that today I was able to download and install Canola on a 770 with the HE !! (and it does not even starts up )
At the very same time I was trying to install it on the N800, but failed (it removed Canola from a former list of applications and I am not able to even refresh that).

So I DO have a Canola2 here.. but can't try it!!! SO SAD!!!
Ok.. I'll go cry in private :P

anidel: Do you ever muck around with root access or the terminal at all? Trying to run it from the terminal or remove and reinstall it from the terminal might tell you more about what's wrong with it on the N800. It *sounds* like you may have gotten the Canola package successfully installed, but one of the dependencies was misconfigured or somehow not installed afterward. If you don't mess around with those things, I can hop on IM after breakfast and try to provide support if you'd like (I notice you have AIM on your profile).

First impressions: nice interface although not without some nits here and there but over all - very favourable impression. Podcast interface is welcome.

First deficiencies observed:

- Paste a URL in Podcast input dialog, press on CR; doesn't "accept" the first time. Go back into URL, press on CR, this time accepted. Repeatable.

- Zoom keys could be better used while sound is playing regardless of what is in the Canola2 foreground; it would be nice not to have to be in the "now playing" UI to be able to use those keys

Wishlist - I've got simple needs:

- a folder-based navigation option in addition to the others

- a way to add items to a play list (if there is a method, it isn't intuitive i.e. click and hold on a title or album)

- Ogg support enabled out of the box; users shouldn't have to know about Nokia's shameful lack of support for Ogg; users shouldn't have to wonder why their Ogg Vorbis files do not show up in a media scan, nor should they have to search through forums and such to find Ogg support. Think about it: there are not that many players that support Ogg out of the box (digital media players overall, I am not talking only about those on the IT) - this is a selling feature. IRiver, Cowon do; for this reason those players appeal to a certain segment of the market. Why Nokia doesn't get this I can not understand but that doesn't prevent you folks from being so dense!

By the way; I have T.K.'s Ogg support installed; have restarted the device; rescanned my media library.

I don't see any of my Ogg formatted files showing up, and since I can't navigate by folder, I can't even be sure that there are problems merely with navigation; with recognition; or with rendition.

It would appear that Canola2 does NOT have Ogg support at present, or there is a bug which needs addressing. Lack of Ogg support the primary reason why I un-installed Canola1.

Overall:

++ I like the interface on balance; podcasting support is nice.
- but wish there was a folder-oriented browsing mode; ID3 tags on tracks are not accurate enough for some purposes, but my folder structure is.
-- Lack of Ogg support / or bug notwithstanding, makes it rather unusable for a collection of music that includes over 1,000 ogg format files.

Edit: While I hope that Canola2 will gain Ogg support and the navigation/playlist capabilities mentioned, for that would make it an exceptionally useful piece of software, at this point I don't see much potential in using it.

At this point of the Ogg-capable digital media software available, none of them hit the nail on the head squarely, but MediaBox (via mplayer) and mpd/mmpc are at least usable.

mpd/mmpc impose a very low overhead on the device itself and deals with very large playlists and multiple well enough; also provides a folder-based navigation option so its my go-to application for audio listening, still.

For the people asking about cover art, there's a third party script that can grab it, supposedly. Given that I only have an unsupported 770 I can't actually verify that it works or tell anyone how to use it if there's no readme, though. I'm just passing along information from elsewhere.

http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/chen....git;a=summary

If only I had the possibility of download and install an xterm now
I thought about it too, but it was a fresh flash of the latest HE so no xterm on it.
Need to wait.

I am almost sure is a d-bus service problem and it'll probably run from the command line.
We'll see

I've just noticed that if I leave the app manager running trying to update the list of applications, the screen will dim and when the app manager fails, it won't lit on, but does flash !
The whole screen flashes slightly.

I think that canola successfully installed all of its packages.
But I think that the startup process is different in chinook than on bora.
Thus when I click on the Canalo2 item menu it does fail to start canola up.

But I need an xterm to test it.

PLEASE READ THIS
Since i've seen a few people now reporting bugs in this thread, please don't.
You can't expect the devs to go through all these pages to find them.
There is a bugtracker : https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?fu...=125&atid=1989

Please use it, that way you actually have a chance of getting the found bugs fixed in the next release!

I personally found it quicker to disable every repository but Extra and Maemo
and then refresh that... then install a few dependencies at a time, im about half way though so far ... frustrating, but im trying to get it done as soon as possible its almost 4am in Australia... good thing its holidays.

-Rip