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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by shallimus
Thats a cop out.
Peet: do not feed the trolls.
No troll here. Not everyone who has an opinion that differs from the Status Quo is a troll.
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by Rugoz
I am actually starting to wonder why I'm here too. When people start making weird comments like "ever since hearing the news I can hardly breathe", I kinda feel like I've stumbled into some weird Nokia Cult.
Why are you here then? I won't loose any sleep over it but I way looking forward to meego. And I'm alone at home currently :-).
I am here because I own an N900 and want to get the best out of it.
And I am in my Kitchen making a cup of tea and my Kettle is boiling. ;-)
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2011-02-11
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Actually Bond@ge, there are grief-worthy aspects here.
1. It spells the end of this "community". I'm not a social-network type at all (never even accepted a Facebook invite), but I'll miss this forum and especially some of the participants, who will scatter.
2. It's a foot on the face of an ideal. We're left with just big, grubby, locked-down, oligopolistic OSes. Nokia, even if for its own corporate interests, was serving as a white knight for "the little, freedom-loving people" and the underdogs. And then it sided with the worst of the entrenched oligopolists and mowed us down in our Virtual Tahrir Square.
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3. Then there all the people who put effort into Maemo, QT, and Meego and are largely undercut/sold out.
4. It's probably a silly thing to mourn, but there are those of us who rooted, maybe foolishly, for a successful Finnish multinational corporation over the American multinational corporations, and for a Europe-centered OS hub instead of all US-centered OSes.
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1. It spells the end of this "community". I'm not a social-network type at all (never even accepted a Facebook invite), but I'll miss this forum and especially some of the participants, who will scatter.
2. It's a foot on the face of an ideal. We're left with just big, grubby, locked-down, oligopolistic OSes. Nokia, even if for its own corporate interests, was serving as a white knight for "the little, freedom-loving people" and the underdogs. And then it sided with the worst of the entrenched oligopolists and mowed us down in our Virtual Tahrir Square.
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3. Then there all the people who put effort into Maemo, QT, and Meego and are largely undercut/sold out.
4. It's probably a silly thing to mourn, but there are those of us who rooted, maybe foolishly, for a successful Finnish multinational corporation over the American multinational corporations, and for a Europe-centered OS hub instead of all US-centered OSes.
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2011-02-11
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"Is there anything we can do??" - no, there isn't. Nokia is big business and not some kind of playground for open source enthusiasts. Symbian was driving Nokia to its' grave and you are exaggerating the importance of open source. Get over it.
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2011-02-11
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@ GeraldKo
I can relate to your first point having been a member of Forums over the years that are no more. And yeah, I do miss them now. I can see where your coming from there.
On the other hand. If the N900 ends up being the last truly OS platform, will that not unite the community even further. I mean, I read a thread today where some guy said he had just ordered TWO N900's for the future. I'm actually thinking of doing the same thing myself, even though I've only owned this one I'm typing on for a month.
What I'm trying to say is, if there is nowhere else to go....will the community stick with what they know?
I can relate to your first point having been a member of Forums over the years that are no more. And yeah, I do miss them now. I can see where your coming from there.
On the other hand. If the N900 ends up being the last truly OS platform, will that not unite the community even further. I mean, I read a thread today where some guy said he had just ordered TWO N900's for the future. I'm actually thinking of doing the same thing myself, even though I've only owned this one I'm typing on for a month.
What I'm trying to say is, if there is nowhere else to go....will the community stick with what they know?
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo
While I agree; it smacks me in the face that Nokia didn't cultivate this community to the point of where it was pushed to the forefront and all associated products - Maemo 5, N900, MeeGo-Harmattan, MeeGo w/ Nokia UX - were not fleshed out fully.
Actually Bond@ge, there are grief-worthy aspects here.
1. It spells the end of this "community". I'm not a social-network type at all (never even accepted a Facebook invite), but I'll miss this forum and especially some of the participants, who will scatter.
2. It's a foot on the face of an ideal. We're left with just big, grubby, locked-down, oligopolistic OSes. Nokia, even if for its own corporate interests, was serving as a white knight for "the little, freedom-loving people" and the underdogs. And then it sided with the worst of the entrenched oligopolists and mowed us down in our Virtual Tahrir Square.
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3. Then there all the people who put effort into Maemo, QT, and Meego and are largely undercut/sold out.
4. It's probably a silly thing to mourn, but there are those of us who rooted, maybe foolishly, for a successful Finnish multinational corporation over the American multinational corporations, and for a Europe-centered OS hub instead of all US-centered OSes.
There was time. 770 came out when? N900 came out when? MeeGo was announced when?
And yet, from the N900 to now, nothing came. The PR updates were delayed. And the OS didn't get the push that we knew it should have.
I have a problem with that. It smacks of bad management no matter how you cut it. Bad, pre-Elop management.
And if it means the end of this community - which I have to somewhat doubt since there is a community SSU - then really... who do you truly blame?
The new head or the old head(s)?
I'm looking back to the past decisions for blame. They killed off what could have been great by not putting anything out that showed that greatness off. We knew it. They just needed to find a way to make others know it.
And they didn't. I find way too many faults in that. Nokia didn't capitalize from the 770 to MeeGo.
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge
GIFs! GIFs! GIFs!
I've lived in Ireland.
And what?
Want to compare Penis size too?
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2011-02-11
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Originally Posted by alcalde
No... no way. GIF's of that kind of action need to be direct message only.
GIFs! GIFs! GIFs!
Do.Not.Want.
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2011-02-11
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"What I'm trying to say is, if there is nowhere else to go....will the community stick with what they know?"
I don't think so. There was a future-oriented aspect that no longer seems pertinent. Developers will want to feel like they're catching the next wave, or at least staying current. I'm not a developer; and I haven't progressed beyond the N8x0 series. Maemo got as far as step X-1 of a promised X steps to a polished consumer device. I was waiting for such a device. It apparently won't be from Nokia, and I won't be here much or at all anymore. Most others will move on, too.
I don't think so. There was a future-oriented aspect that no longer seems pertinent. Developers will want to feel like they're catching the next wave, or at least staying current. I'm not a developer; and I haven't progressed beyond the N8x0 series. Maemo got as far as step X-1 of a promised X steps to a polished consumer device. I was waiting for such a device. It apparently won't be from Nokia, and I won't be here much or at all anymore. Most others will move on, too.
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