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2011-06-06 , 06:37
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#141
Originally Posted by anonymous View Post
I gave Elop the benefit of the doubt until this morning.

Every time they give him a microphone he basically says "our products suck so hard! we can't do anything right! By the way, we're releasing a windows phone". The tech blogs eat this up, stocks fall. As the head of a company trying to make a profit, this makes no sense.

I know he is CEO and all, but they probably shouldn't let him speak at conferences.
I have thinked about this for a while and now I have finally come up with an opinion.

This only confirms that the management in Nokia are just bunch of floating trunks in the river.

Is it better to expect an end of the world or something like meego making everything better again just because it is cool?

1. Maemo should have gotten at least double the attention already in 2008
2. They didn't have any convincing device strategy with meego
3. because of the major revision with m6->meego, timetables were too optimistically done

I sure hope they learn something from the point number 1, but sadly it seems that they want only jump into old apps bandwagon and keep meego in breathing machine just for fun/hobby.
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2011-06-06 , 06:56
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#142
Originally Posted by geohsia View Post
Why, because Symbian has been around for a long time, ...
No, because if you check the facts, Symbian can do a lot more than Android or iOS... Starting from Multitasking to the ease of file access (and therefore: file exchange) and support for the most unusual telephony functions etc etc

The Qt thing comes on top and isn't (so far) a critical part of what Symbian "can do". Symbian has a good ecosystem even without Qt.
 

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#143
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
AT&T CEO "Windows Phone 7 Not Selling as Well as Hoped"...
"ComScore published its latest market share results for American smartphone sales, with Microsoft's share having dropped 25% since the introduction of Windows Phone 7 in November 2010."

Putting Nokia together with Microsoft on this is like an ugly date (the kind you would think would make up for the bad looks) that instead has all the personality and character flaws too.
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2011-06-06 , 09:34
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#144
Well, right now Nokia doesn't have any core OS software team. WP is done by MS and Symbian is done by Accenture. This leaves Nokia with Maemo/MeeGo and S40. Why they even bother with S40 is a mystery since there are several light weight OS'es available that will do the job just fine. But then again, S40 has always been a good OS, so maybe a change will not be worth it.

Samsung, as the second largest, does not have a OS on its own. Bada is the closest thing, but is based around a commercially available Nucleus core.

Nokia still got Maemo. If they manage to release devices based on that I will be happy. But I don't see it happening, I don't see the purpose, there is limited synergy with WP with such a venture. The obvious way would be to use a small team at MS to do this using WP.
 
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2011-06-06 , 09:47
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#145
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
AT&T CEO "Windows Phone 7 Not Selling as Well as Hoped"...
People is waiting for Nokia WP7 mobiles ???
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#146
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Well, right now Nokia doesn't have any core OS software team. WP is done by MS and Symbian is done by Accenture. This leaves Nokia with Maemo/MeeGo and S40. Why they even bother with S40 is a mystery since there are several light weight OS'es available that will do the job just fine. But then again, S40 has always been a good OS, so maybe a change will not be worth it.
Just fyi., S40 is an application layer for the underly ISA, or informally known as Nokia OS. Since it is not licensed to anyone other company so it isn't has a trademarked name like Symbian does.

So technically speaking Nokia still has a flagship OS....to compete with all those low-end but function-rich China brands phones.
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2011-06-06 , 10:02
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#147
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Samsung, as the second largest, does not have a OS on its own. Bada is the closest thing, but is based around a commercially available Nucleus core.
Also, Bada s.u.c.k.s

I'm kinda forced to do some porting work to bada and it ends up being almost a rewrite. Good luck attracting lots of apps to that crap.

At least maemo/meego offers the ease of porting....
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#148
Originally Posted by petur View Post
Also, Bada s.u.c.k.s

I'm kinda forced to do some porting work to bada and it ends up being almost a rewrite. Good luck attracting lots of apps to that crap.

At least maemo/meego offers the ease of porting....
Kinda forcing them seems to work well The point is that Bada connot be ignored. Besides, Bada is straight forward, what exactly are you porting from?
 
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2011-06-06 , 10:34
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#149
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Kinda forcing them seems to work well The point is that Bada connot be ignored. Besides, Bada is straight forward, what exactly are you porting from?
You got to be kidding....

It is not posix compliant, there is no stdlib, all system interfaces are custom (deeply) nested C++ namespaces, etc.... Same s.h.i.t as Nintendo does, btw, it seems to have been invented by the same idiot, just changed the names and order of arguments.

Can't tell what I'm porting, sorry
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#150
Originally Posted by petur View Post
You got to be kidding....

It is not posix compliant, there is no stdlib, all system interfaces are custom (deeply) nested C++ namespaces, etc.... Same s.h.i.t as Nintendo does, btw, it seems to have been invented by the same idiot, just changed the names and order of arguments.

Can't tell what I'm porting, sorry
It's still straigh forward to code for Bada though. I meant what OS are you porting from?
 
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