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2017-07-29
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Originally Posted by ibins
It's possible to remove to earpiece/speaker completely and transmit the audio trough the frame of the phone, using piezo electric components.
\o/ for the new phone with slider keyboard!
Crazy idea: Design the device so, that there is no (zero) bezel around the display. Having a 5,5" display would make the device almost exactly the size of a Jolla phone!
Without a slider keyboard this wouldn't make sense, because nobody could hold the device without interacting with the touch display. With the slider keyboard one can hold the device without touching the display at all! Addidtionally this would lead to a few interesting and unique design decitions:
- No speaker or microphone on the front. Put these on the back of the phone (Yeah - crazy, but why not?). Would this be too weird? After checking the display one would have to flip the device to the back side for actually taking the call. Alternatively the speaker could be positioned to the top edge of the side. Actually this would be the left speaker of the stereo speakers of an N900.
- Putting the speaker to the back side (or top side) would eliminate the need for a second (front) camera. Video calls would work with the main camera. Save the money for the second camera and lense. This way you could also blind yourself with the flash LEDs during a video call 8-)
- Putting the speaker to the back side (or top side) eventually could eliminate the need for the proximity sensor to disable the display when the device is held to the head while phoning.
- As there will be more space in depth: Please put two speakers into the thing like in N900, which sounds amazingly good, although the device is really short in length.
- A RGB notification LED on the front might be difficult. Possible solutions:
a) Put it on the bottom edge and position it, so it lights 45° to the bottom and 45° to the back side. When the device lies on a table, the LED will be directed to the person sitting in front of the table. Due to the 45° angle to the table, there is the chance, that the table surface will also reflect the LED.
b) In case you decide to still have a slimm bezel, there could be some sort of plastic fiber material directing the light of a LED positioned inside the phone to the bezel itself or to a small window in the bezel. Actually the border of the bezel could be the indicator.
Anyways: Having the hope to get a landscape slider device with Sailfish OS is very exciting! Thanks for that!
The Xiaomi Mi Mix is using this technology.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...es-looks-like/
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2x N900 - both for sale, 1x in mint condition with a qwerty keyboard (with box and all accessories) and 1x in used condition with qwertz keyboard. PM me[/B]
1x N9 16GB cyan, made in Finland - for sale PM me
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Surface Pro 4 M3 - Win10 is buggy...
Lenovo Thinkpad W520 - Xubuntu
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2017-07-30
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#143
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Forget the 'cool' no edge look, a nice 3mm or so of Ti, stainless steel, even maybe nylon bezel would make carrying the phone in a rubber or plastic case superfluous. We already know that the cool glass-to-the-edge look is why most phones are encased or cracked now, but you rarely saw a cracked N900. I think any community project should aim for maximum longevity vs racing past the current industry trends at making phones a profit center with replacement required once a year of the thin all-glass designs.
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2017-07-30
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#144
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Originally Posted by NX500
Yes but that phone did it terribly.
It's possible to remove to earpiece/speaker completely and transmit the audio trough the frame of the phone, using piezo electric components.
The Xiaomi Mi Mix is using this technology.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...es-looks-like/
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2017-07-30
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#146
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18:9 aspect ratio screen in 5.5" (2560x1080), would still be quite manageable one handed...
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2017-07-30
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#147
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Originally Posted by catbus
Because they are controlled mostly by Samsung, the suppliers. To get those screens in a small quantity usually is impossible as they will simply ignore us. I'm sure most people wouldn't want to pay a few hundreds bucks more just to get the amoled.
Why not Amoled?
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2017-07-30
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Originally Posted by TheKit
Chen, on this be careful about the selection of the Wifi+BT+FM combo chip, as in general it seems that the qualcomm offering is much easier to get working in sailfish os than its broadcom equivalent.
So, ironically, SoC is the same with Moto Z Play. I already have SailfishOS booting on it (want to get more of hardware working before I publish the port though).
It should be more or less similar then in terms of porting, so we can (at bare minimum) have unofficial port (without Android support).
Particularly on the Bluetooth side, since android uses Bluedroid theres no requirement for the kernel to have any support for the BT chip at all, which appears to be the root cause of a number of sailfish ports with broken BT. That said the newer kernel in android 7 should help things there as drivers can be more easily backported from mainline.
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2017-07-30
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Originally Posted by ibins
Yes, that would absolutely be too weird, and you would look like an idiot every time you picked up a call. Which problem would it even solve? It's as if you would have a house with the doorbell at the front but the actual door at the back of the house. I'm 100% sure there's at least one ugly Belgian house that fits that description to a T.
- No speaker or microphone on the front. Put these on the back of the phone (Yeah - crazy, but why not?). Would this be too weird? After checking the display one would have to flip the device to the back side for actually taking the call. Alternatively the speaker could be positioned to the top edge of the side.
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2017-07-30
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Originally Posted by chenliangchen
This...
Because they are controlled mostly by Samsung, the suppliers. To get those screens in a small quantity usually is impossible as they will simply ignore us. I'm sure most people wouldn't want to pay a few hundreds bucks more just to get the amoled.
..plus screen burn-ins are still a big amoled problem.
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1x HTC Hermes 300 - collecting dust. WinMob. was nice...so was pre-Android xda-dev..
2x N900 - both for sale, 1x in mint condition with a qwerty keyboard (with box and all accessories) and 1x in used condition with qwertz keyboard. PM me[/B]
1x N9 16GB cyan, made in Finland - for sale PM me
1x Jolla - for sale PM me
iPhone SE - lost
iPhone 7 - 128GB
Surface Pro 4 M3 - Win10 is buggy...
Lenovo Thinkpad W520 - Xubuntu
Lenovo Thinkpad X200 - Libreboot and Trisquel
1x HTC Hermes 300 - collecting dust. WinMob. was nice...so was pre-Android xda-dev..
2x N900 - both for sale, 1x in mint condition with a qwerty keyboard (with box and all accessories) and 1x in used condition with qwertz keyboard. PM me[/B]
1x N9 16GB cyan, made in Finland - for sale PM me
1x Jolla - for sale PM me
iPhone SE - lost
iPhone 7 - 128GB
Surface Pro 4 M3 - Win10 is buggy...
Lenovo Thinkpad W520 - Xubuntu
Lenovo Thinkpad X200 - Libreboot and Trisquel
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The same about the proximity sensor: the point is to disable the screen to prevent accidentally pressing something. You would still need that even if the screen is facing away from you during the call.
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