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2012-09-30
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Originally Posted by Dave999
This. It's actually possible to make a fully functional, well designed app in HTML5+CSS3+crazy JS libraries.
Compiled language will stay for many years. When computer speed and network speed isn't limitations the html5 can be great for platform independent but until th
en its more of a hype.
But if the developer is very skilled, great thinks can be done in html5, just not trying to mimic native application too much. Many examples reaching uncanny valley.
However, your limiting factor is performance. Interpreting HTML, CSS and any number of JS libraries takes a lot of time on a mobile device. There simply isn't enough horsepower to magically make them smooth and responsive as butter.
See: Facebook's HTML5-based app.
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2012-09-30
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Not every type of application is reasonable to make in JavaScript. Try to make a browser in it with JIT compiler for JavaScript itself 
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2012-09-30
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Originally Posted by Hurrian
I have to ask: how responsive exactly is butter? ;-)
There simply isn't enough horsepower to magically make them smooth and responsive as butter.
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2012-09-30
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Originally Posted by Dave999
No, even with plenty of processing power and network speed HTML5 would still suck for writing applications. Its only advantage is that it looks like it's more platform independent than the rest, but even at the best of times that's not an easy, straightforward and consistent path.
Tizen and jolla must be your choice. Or same underground skunk work pad.
Compiled language will stay for many years. When computer speed and network speed isn't limitations the html5 can be great for platform independent but until then its more of a hype.
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2012-09-30
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Originally Posted by lma
Depends of the butter temprrature
I have to ask: how responsive exactly is butter? ;-)
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2012-09-30
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What most seems to forget is that you still almost always have other ways to create applications. Don't really understand why everyone must attack html5 all the time, if you don't like it just don't code html and js and stuff and leave that to the devs that like it.
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2012-09-30
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Originally Posted by fw190
Ah, of course, that's why overclocking makes it more responsive!
Depends of the butter temprrature
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2012-09-30
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Originally Posted by Dave999
The "problem" is that Jolla seems quite positive about HTML5, and I'm afraid they will actively promote it over better alternatives which leads to a real problem: mediocre apps.
What most seems to forget is that you still almost always have other ways to create applications. Don't really understand why everyone must attack html5 all the time, if you don't like it just don't code html and js and stuff and leave that to the devs that like it.
I'm also afraid many developers simply lack the knowledge to make an well-considered decision to use HTML5 - they simply use what they know and even think it's always the best choice, because of the hype.
Indeed, better a HTML5 app than no app, But but with 10+ years of webtech-experience I can't help to be disappointed by it, seeing the slow pace, wrong turns and general amateur appearance of the platform. I think it's a good idea to show that not everybody thinks HTML5 is all heavenly bliss and The One Tool For Everything. So I know, I'm overreacting again and again, but I simply can't find a lot of good in HTML5 for apps, so everytime someone mentions it as if it was, it makes me sad.
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2012-09-30
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Open mobile with Jussi Hurmola. Grab a cup of coffee and watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7vozx-pqN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7vozx-pqN8
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Compiled language will stay for many years. When computer speed and network speed isn't limitations the html5 can be great for platform independent but until th
en its more of a hype.
But if the developer is very skilled, great thinks can be done in html5, just not trying to mimic native application too much. Many examples reaching uncanny valley.
I think too many don't like Html5 becouse of what they seen and not what great developers can do with it.
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Last edited by Dave999; 2012-09-30 at 06:54.