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2013-07-19
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ROTFL This thread is epic I am sure Elop loves it.
I have Lumiaman on my ignore list but see his quites STILL he convinced WP was right choice
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-stock-2013-7
I have Lumiaman on my ignore list but see his quites STILL he convinced WP was right choice
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-stock-2013-7
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2013-07-19
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter
Nokia basicly gave up the low end, A.K.A the only segment were they were competive, with the Meltemi cancellation.
Series 40+J2ME was destined to die (to be replaced by Meltemi+Qt) it was Elop who saved it.
Yet another catastrophic blunder that will cost NOKIA a large fortune.
Of all the Elop stupidity it's both the dumbest and the least appreciated one. The 400 - 500 people being sacked from the mobile-phones (non-smartphone) unit is just the beginning. S40/Asha/What The ****ing Ever it's called this week or before next month is soon Android's road kill. Nokia just getting rid of the people it won't be needing, now that it won't be competing in the low-end anymore.
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2013-07-19
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Originally Posted by Rauha
Nokia basicly gave up the low end, A.K.A the only segment were they were competive, with the Meltemi cancellation.
Of all the Elop stupidity it's both the dumbest and the least appreciated one. The 400 - 500 people being sacked from the mobile-phones (non-smartphone) unit is just the beginning. S40/Asha/What The ****ing Ever it's called this week or before next month is soon Android's road kill. Nokia just getting rid of the people it won't be needing, now that it won't be competing in the low-end anymore.
Meltemi? you must be joking. android would have wiped it so fast
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2013-07-19
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter
There is a simple answer to your reliance on the past: that is why you will not be a CEO. Symbian and Meego apologizers is why NOKIA was in trouble...instead of jumping on the right platform in 2007 when iphone was unveiled, they ridiculed it, didnt believe it and sat on their assssees. Radical surgery was needed and Elop is delivering. Stock higher today than yesterday.
Ah, so you're back pedaling on Android now? I haven't forgotten what you've said about it in the past, it clearly demonstrated you have absolutely no clue what it takes to make a successful smartphone OS.
With Windows Phone NOKIA can only differentiate through hardware, hence the focus on camera tech.
Try punching this in your calculator:
6.1 x 191
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7.4 x 157
Which produced the greater result?
Even if results were just as bad as they are now (and that would take even greater incompetence than Elop has delivered because NOKIA did actually have viable platforms) at least NOKIA would still be an independant company in control of its own destiny.
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2013-07-19
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter
Ah, so you're back pedaling on Android now? I haven't forgotten what you've said about it in the past, it clearly demonstrated you have absolutely no clue what it takes to make a successful smartphone OS.
With Windows Phone NOKIA can only differentiate through hardware, hence the focus on camera tech.
Try punching this in your calculator:
6.1 x 191
then:
7.4 x 157
Which produced the greater result?
Even if results were just as bad as they are now (and that would take even greater incompetence than Elop has delivered because NOKIA did actually have viable platforms) at least NOKIA would still be an independant company in control of its own destiny.
Not with the coders they had. Not with the culture they had. But they saw problems and responded better than BBRY. BBRY waited too long to shed the old and will likely drop out of the race for third ecosystem.
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2013-07-19
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
BlackBerry's ASP is over $300 (for the BB10 devices it's over $400). It's time to get your calculator out again.
But they saw problems and responded better than BBRY. BBRY waited too long to shed the old and will likely drop out of the race for third ecosystem.
I'm sure they could sell much greater volumes of BB10 devices if they started churning them out at EUR 157. They may yet decide to do that if their plan of being a high end, high margin manufacturer fails to pay dividends.
BlackBerry own their own ecosystem so at least they have other ways of making money from their customers if they are forced into a higher volume at lower cost scenario.
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2013-07-21
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A year old, but it seems the trend has only continued and the same points stand...
The Windows Phone Predictions that IDC, Gartner and Pyramid Research Probably Hope You’ve Forgotten
http://www.globalnerdy.com/2012/05/0...uve-forgotten/
IDC’s Prediction: Almost 6% Market Share in 2011, 21% by 2015
Gartner’s Prediction: Almost 6% in 2011, 11% in 2012, 20% by 2015
And where are we now?
Let’s now take a look at the latest comScore report, published on May 1st, 2012:
The best quote of the article:
"Simply put, it means the predictions are dead wrong — and in Pyramid Research’s case, delusional — and you’d best run away from this platform as quickly as your feet will take you. Unless there’s some massive change in Microsoft’s strategy — maybe there’ll be a Windows 8 miracle, but I wouldn’t bet on it — do not look back, just high-tail it out of there. There’s a lot of interesting stuff happening in the mobile world, but it ain’t happening in Windows Phone land."
Read the whole article, Lumiaman, if you have the guts for it.
Last edited by danramos; 2013-07-21 at 11:21.
The Windows Phone Predictions that IDC, Gartner and Pyramid Research Probably Hope You’ve Forgotten
http://www.globalnerdy.com/2012/05/0...uve-forgotten/
IDC’s Prediction: Almost 6% Market Share in 2011, 21% by 2015
Gartner’s Prediction: Almost 6% in 2011, 11% in 2012, 20% by 2015
And where are we now?
Let’s now take a look at the latest comScore report, published on May 1st, 2012:
The best quote of the article:
"Simply put, it means the predictions are dead wrong — and in Pyramid Research’s case, delusional — and you’d best run away from this platform as quickly as your feet will take you. Unless there’s some massive change in Microsoft’s strategy — maybe there’ll be a Windows 8 miracle, but I wouldn’t bet on it — do not look back, just high-tail it out of there. There’s a lot of interesting stuff happening in the mobile world, but it ain’t happening in Windows Phone land."
Read the whole article, Lumiaman, if you have the guts for it.
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
Last edited by danramos; 2013-07-21 at 11:21.
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2013-07-21
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I think they may be right that WP will come back in some way 2015.
Reason is simple: Microsoft MUST do something desperate. They may very well go buy some big ARM SoC manufactor that would hurt Linux even more.
When I say "hurt linux even more" I mean the facts that Google has killed Linux embedded because manufactors does now only support Android GFX drivers and NOT core linux drivers
Thats why Microsoft and Google are the same *******s.
Last edited by mikecomputing; 2013-07-21 at 11:49.
Reason is simple: Microsoft MUST do something desperate. They may very well go buy some big ARM SoC manufactor that would hurt Linux even more.
When I say "hurt linux even more" I mean the facts that Google has killed Linux embedded because manufactors does now only support Android GFX drivers and NOT core linux drivers
Thats why Microsoft and Google are the same *******s.
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6.1 x 191
then:
7.4 x 157
Which produced the greater result?