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un-named_user	2009-11-24 , 22:08
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby

Agreed. The backspace key on the keyboard may be used to go back a page in the browser, but it often takes several tries before it works. Still, it's better than using the history.

Those keys are sticky. Press and release "Ctrl". Press and release "a".

Yipes! Full brightness gives me sunburn.

Actually that's why I use open in new window then switching back a lot. It just makes it less painful to browse the web

I know they are. but it just feels more natural to have them on both sides. Plus I like symbian's way of notifying about the current sticky key applied(single clicks).

and the brightness is weird. One level below maximum is actually dark and max is actually bright.. my bad

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Bratag	2009-11-24 , 22:10
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Originally Posted by Megacrazy

Yeah I might've cut the honeymoon a little short with this thread.

Zoom has no effect on smoothness. The more you zoom in the more checkered patterns you get. Also, if you switch tasks without closing the browser and then switch to it again...it's checkered patterns galore.

Well I believe its happening on your device - we have quite a few devices in the wild now - can we get some others to weigh in on this - looks like its the engadget website thats being used to demo. Could we have a couple of people load it up and scroll around etc quickly

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danielwilson	2009-11-24 , 22:11
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Originally Posted by Zuhälter

I don't know about anyone else.. But Megacrazy is scaring the Bajesus out of me with this thread. I know I was going out on a leap of faith pre-ordering the N900.. but damn, I'm all nervous now! I expect there to be a learning curve with this device and some growing pains. Expect it and look forward to working through them TOGETHER with the community (Ok, actually you guys with the technical knowhow working through it and me tagging along and benefiting from your expertise.. but clicking thanks on the forum to how my appreciation!) I KNOW that my Nokia N95 8GB will have more and better phone functions than the N900 (until a couple of firmware updates hopefully) However the browser being jumpy and lagging?? WTF?? However, in NO video have I seen, this lag or anything else. Any other review said the browser was by far the best part of the device! So the people who have their N900, is it true??? Is it people being afraid to say what Megacrazy is saying or is this some evil plot to keep me up at night wondering. Aaaaaarrgh, I hate second guessing myself! Damn you Megacrazy if this is a joke.. daaaaaaaaamn uuuuuuu!

i would not take any notice just talking crap when i used the devise scrolling and browsing though the net was smooth as a babys bum my m8s got hd 2 and he regrets buying it over the n900

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	Texrat	2009-11-24 , 22:12
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Originally Posted by Megacrazy

Yeah I might've cut the honeymoon a little short with this thread.

Doubtful. There has been far too much hyperbole in your posting and I'm sure many others recognize that.

I think there are enough unreasonably rabid fans to keep the honeymoon going a bit longer.

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Enyibinakata	2009-11-24 , 22:13
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N900 is a groundbreaking device and will have a place in mobile computing history.

Well done NOKIA. You've proved the doubters wrong and shown the Americans how its done.

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un-named_user	2009-11-24 , 22:14
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Originally Posted by Zuhälter

I don't know about anyone else.. But Megacrazy is scaring the Bajesus out of me with this thread. I know I was going out on a leap of faith pre-ordering the N900.. but ....
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hate second guessing myself! Damn you Megacrazy if this is a joke.. daaaaaaaaamn uuuuuuu!

The browser is impressive no doubt. Being able to use the chat on facebook and gmail is impressive IMO.

Its just that some issues need to be worked out, that's all. But don't worry about it, as these days no products come out that didn't require a patch or two to get them up to the optimum.

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jjx	2009-11-24 , 22:15
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Originally Posted by zerojay

Looks like the issue is that you aren't used to using a resistive touchscreen more than anything else. Honestly, your video actually shows scrolling working quite well for the most part.

I looked at the same video, and I see the scrolling is moderately smooth (not really smooth - I notice but some people can't see the difference in games, so the same would apply).

But the complaints about slow drawing of browser content are crystal clear in the video. Much of the time, when scrolling at speed all you can see is a blue display - you can't tell where you are in the page. And then it eventually draws itself in, sometimes in several stages, almost like loading a web page (although it's clearly just rendering, not fetching or layout).

That can be improved in software I'm sure. (Very sure). But whether it will actually be improved remains to be seen.

Having seen that video, I'm confident that it at least some browser canvas implementation is likely to fix the rendering performance, even if it's not in the shipping browser. E.g. Tear or Fennec, for example?

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	Dave999	2009-11-24 , 22:21
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This phone sucks, like all new phones does. But wait a month or two and this beast will eat you alive

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MrGrim	2009-11-24 , 22:24
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Originally Posted by Texrat

Doubtful. There has been far too much hyperbole in your posting and I'm sure many others recognize that.

I think there are enough unreasonably rabid fans to keep the honeymoon going a bit longer.

It can't be a coincidence that the very next post proved your point

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	Texrat	2009-11-24 , 22:28
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I really don't get the browser complaints. Maybe I'm visiting the wrong sites?

Although I've been to heavy ones like LinkedIn, ebay, cnn.com, youtube, etc etc etc.

And consistently, the only sites giving me fits on the N900 are those that do the same on my quad-core 4gig PC connected to a fiber network. Yes, I'm talking to YOU LinkedIn and 1and1.com. Speed up your sites!

Sooo... seriously, not sure where so many of these rendering and scrolling complaints are coming from. I'm just dealing with UI oddities more than anything.