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fatalsaint	2010-02-14 , 19:21
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Originally Posted by UNderworld

Should I check the gearbox oil / transmission fluid when I go to buy a brand new car??? Or should I 'google' whether the dealers sell it with the oil???

I dunno about you.. but I always do a thorough check of any vehicle I purchase.. new or used. I even take it for a test drive to make sure the thing actually runs before dropping 20k+ on a new car..

but hey.. that's just me.

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	RevdKathy	2010-02-14 , 19:22
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint

I dunno about you.. but I always do a thorough check of any vehicle I purchase.. new or used. I even take it for a test drive to make sure the thing actually runs before dropping 20k+ on a new car..

but hey.. that's just me.

Runs? I have do take a test drive to make sure I can reach the pedals.

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	daperl	2010-02-14 , 19:22
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Originally Posted by UNderworld

Should I check the gearbox oil / transmission fluid when I go to buy a brand new car??? Or should I 'google' whether the dealers sell it with the oil???

Should you even be driving?

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fatalsaint	2010-02-14 , 19:26
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Originally Posted by gerbick

Simply put, please link me to the official documentation from Nokia that would have answered a question from a MS Exchange user/admin point of view.

THAT doesn't exist. That's my point. If it existed, one link and all of that guber99 ranting would have been proven moot.

The rest of your post I agree with.. I do think Nokia should be a little open about their plans for the future and be more responsive about some of the things we ask.

On the one hand: Nokia is one of the most open companies regarding their devices.. we actually know about M6 and have *some* information about how it's going to be built.. etc. Apple wouldn't tell anybody anything till it was time for release in my understanding.

OTOH: this *little* bit of openness from Nokia generates tons of questions.. and it's then that Nokia just shuts up and says nothing. That gets annoying.

However, regarding your direct quote, this is the link used by Guber and others about the whole provisioning mess:
Check

Your argument is double-edged... right there is a page specifically about exchange and checking work email - and specifically - the N900 is not there!. So I, personally, would demand a link to an official Nokia document that explains that provision is supported.. since there *is* a page about Mail For Exchange on Nokia.com... and it doesn't list the N900 as supported.

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gerbick	2010-02-14 , 19:32
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Originally Posted by UNderworld

Should I check the gearbox oil / transmission fluid when I go to buy a brand new car??? Or should I 'google' whether the dealers sell it with the oil???

You'd be a fool if you did not check the fluids, test drive the car, as well as do your research.

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gerbick	2010-02-14 , 19:39
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint

On the one hand: Nokia is one of the most open companies regarding their devices.. we actually know about M6 and have *some* information about how it's going to be built.. etc.

Gotta somewhat disagree here... one question remains unanswered. Will Maemo 6 be on the N900. They've been coy thus far - and honestly, I understand why; but at the same time they've not answered that question.

Apple wouldn't tell anybody anything till it was time for release in my understanding.

Agree. But at the same time, they've supported their three phones with full OS updates with some minor feature forks. And in some cases - original iPhone especially - they've announced with each new iteration of their OS that it will work on the prior iterations of their phone.

That's a slight difference than the reticence around the N900 and Maemo 6.

OTOH: this *little* bit of openness from Nokia generates tons of questions.. and it's then that Nokia just shuts up and says nothing. That gets annoying.

Agree. The openness is expected though due to the nature of Maemo. iPhoneOS is closed like... no other. Maemo, open like no other. So you'd expect the commentary to be as open... and it's not. We talk as a community, wait for the crumbs from Nokia.

However, regarding your direct quote, this is the link used by Guber and others about the whole provisioning mess:
Check

Your argument is double-edged... right there is a page specifically about exchange and checking work email - and specifically - the N900 is not there!.

And that's the part where common sense should have kicked in and a different decision would have been made. I don't see my phone there, I'd automatically assume it doesn't support it.

Thanks for that link. It's been buried under the many threads, too many try to remember by now.

So I, personally, would demand a link to an official Nokia document that explains that provision is supported.. since there *is* a page about Mail For Exchange on Nokia.com... and it doesn't list the N900 as supported.

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fatalsaint	2010-02-14 , 19:48
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Originally Posted by gerbick

Gotta somewhat disagree here... one question remains unanswered. Will Maemo 6 be on the N900. They've been coy thus far - and honestly, I understand why; but at the same time they've not answered that question.

In my opinion.. this is no longer a question.. I don't understand why people keep hoping for it.

Check here, here, here and here.

When a VP actually says something... It'd be quite surprising to find out he was full of sh**.

So to me.. yes, they've answered that question - although no where near as publicly as they should have.

Also, This post from Quim is very good information and shows exactly where it may be likely that the N900 get's it's future.. and thats with the officially supported QT 4.6 libraries running atop M5.

That is still the question mark: What are they going to do to make M5 viable, once M6 hits the shelves? And for that.. Quim said wait till Harmattan is released.

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Guber99	2010-02-14 , 20:12
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby

Well, the first signs that the N900 is a non-provisioning device actually appeared in these forums in early September, before the N900 was available for sale or even loaned out at the Summit. As "provisioning" was not mentioned by name in that thread though, the information may have been difficult to locate.

Thanks for this link......if you really expected that people would have read this buried thread......but what I love are his comments:

The sample I have only allows a numeric password to be set - My sysadmin is enforcing a alphanumeric password...

Had the same issue on most s60 nSeries devices other than eSeries & n97...

[FONT="Arial Black"]Hope they rectify this before launch or there will be a lot of angry customers who are looking to use this device for business purposes and cannot.[/FONT]

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Guber99	2010-02-14 , 20:14
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And if you read the rest of the thread.....the crowd is confused if he is right or not and they all end with a note that if this is not fixed BY THE TIME OF RELEASE....."there will be a lot of angry customers who are looking to use this device for business purposes and cannot"

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gerbick	2010-02-14 , 20:27
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint

In my opinion.. this is no longer a question.. I don't understand why people keep hoping for it.

From my standpoint... I can't support another device that will be left behind too quickly when it's billed as a pocket computer, which implies OS upgrades too.