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2010-02-18
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#152
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Originally Posted by Bratag
Hopefully your are not referring to me. I´m really really kind person and as i said before sometimes too kind. If i were really mad my input would be really something totally different. Maybe my lack of to express myself makes you think that i´m yelling for tar and feathers. But no. Just dissapointed and sad are my feelings.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that you are all treating this as if he has violated some sort of sacrosanct process and I am trying to point out that it is in no way anything of the sort.
I hope that SIO2 Interactive just understand how important this issue is. He is human and i´m also and i can understand that sometimes we make mistakes, but when i have done mistakes I have never ever tried to justify my deeds to other people by telling my story. Mistakes are always made, but making them deliberately makes it serious and god help is you make it again deliberately you should burn in hell
I´m not so condemnatory person as this might look like.
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2010-02-18
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#153
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Hey guys, just do it like real capitalism. Once he gets his product on the line via the normal fashion, buy it, or don't. But let your money do the talking.
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2010-02-18
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#154
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Originally Posted by antoarts
Do you think that making good justifys someones questionable actions?
I think we made him abondon us... Great... well, my opinion on this is that it is lesser great. This should really have been made more privately...
Do questionable actions justify greater good?
In my opinion no. As important is end result is also the way to this result.
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2010-02-18
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#155
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Originally Posted by slender
I think people make mistakes when presented with few or no options. I think that the calls here were tantamount to wanting to string him up by his heels for that mistake.
Do you think that making good justifys someones questionable actions?
Do questionable actions justify greater good?
In my opinion no. As important is end result is also the way to this result.
I think If I was a dev (and I am) I would tell this community to shove it directly up their arse for the lack of understanding shown.
I think people need to take a big old step back and realize that it was Nokia that brought about this turn of events by not getting the OVI store into any sort of shape - despite having had months and months to do so.
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2010-02-18
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#156
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Originally Posted by slender
No it does not justify his actions, but he deserves another chance (second, and likely a very last chance). It's not rather nice to blame a person like this on a public forum, and he needs money for living, he had a reason, even if what he did was absolutely wrong. He should get (or have gotten) another chance, he did this platform something good afterall. But yeah, if he would spoil that second chance then, that's another story...
Do you think that making good justifys someones questionable actions?
Do questionable actions justify greater good?
In my opinion no. As important is end result is also the way to this result.
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2010-02-18
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#157
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Originally Posted by Bratag
This http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?titl...ting#Promotion was linked to early in this thread. It explains what needs to happen to promote a package from testing to extras. It doesn't actually say that you shouldn't create sockpuppet accounts to vote for your own application, but really, should it have to?
What rules? Please point me at them (I mean that honestly I would like to see the extras repos policies).
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2010-02-18
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#158
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So just another 3 votes from the testers group and he could have slipped this decent piece of malware into the sacred repositories? Gee whiz, that was close...
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2010-02-18
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#159
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Is this the right way to do it?
Analyzing people's morale grounds and motivations and passing your judgements against them?
I certainly don't want to go that far. It can take the discussions to unnecessary topics which are not wholly relevant to what we need here.
I think we should just go back to see what he had done wrong and see what the existing rules say about that.
Analyzing people's morale grounds and motivations and passing your judgements against them?
I certainly don't want to go that far. It can take the discussions to unnecessary topics which are not wholly relevant to what we need here.
I think we should just go back to see what he had done wrong and see what the existing rules say about that.
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2010-02-18
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*sigh*
I can't say I disagree with what the OP did, and I'm pretty shocked at the behaviour of the dev, but I also think that wrong or not, this sort of response is not good in the long run. We should have some sort of formal process for violations like this (having a ruling from the Council was suggested), in such a way that things like this can be cleared up without an angry mob (albeit a well-intentioned one). For someone who doesn't understand the nature of trust and community in this situation, the response here could easily be overwhelming, and seem unfair; if there was a way to more quietly report things like this, and deal with them through an official channel, we might not have chased him away. Maybe someone should start a new thread to discuss this possibility, if people are interested.
I can't say I disagree with what the OP did, and I'm pretty shocked at the behaviour of the dev, but I also think that wrong or not, this sort of response is not good in the long run. We should have some sort of formal process for violations like this (having a ruling from the Council was suggested), in such a way that things like this can be cleared up without an angry mob (albeit a well-intentioned one). For someone who doesn't understand the nature of trust and community in this situation, the response here could easily be overwhelming, and seem unfair; if there was a way to more quietly report things like this, and deal with them through an official channel, we might not have chased him away. Maybe someone should start a new thread to discuss this possibility, if people are interested.
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What rules? Please point me at them (I mean that honestly I would like to see the extras repos policies).
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