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	Dave999	2012-06-21 , 22:31
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Originally Posted by danramos

Let we forget, Nokia was the top cell phone maker in the world not that long ago. I'll bet Google and Apple are terribly worried about the EU crisis and China news effecting their stock this drastically too, right? :P

True, and that should be a lessen for them. Google haven't faced a real crises yet. But it will come. It's often totally unexpected and can be triggered by anything.

I do think android will suffer soon. Soon as in between 1-3 years.. Nokia's will eventually show somekind of positive results for a quarter and the stock slowly move to a few dollars.

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mikecomputing	2012-06-21 , 22:49
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Originally Posted by danramos

Let we forget, Nokia was the top cell phone maker in the world not that long ago. I'll bet Google and Apple are terribly worried about the EU crisis and China news effecting their stock this drastically too, right? :P

No one cant decide if a companys goes up/down just based on what happens one day. And because you Americans get big loans from China dopesnt make you (OR ANYONE!!!) better.

The world economy is CORRUPT and Its just plain ridicilous. So point is taken. EU is crisis IS infect Nokia stocks to as soon as some european country saying something bad about theyr country, witch seems happen every damn week now

Countrys should take theyr DAMN responsibilities of theyr countrys and also the global enviroment and stop selling ****ing weapons, kids, slaves and STOP being so damn stupid asholes

That includes ofcourse not only european crisis countrys, but also USA and my own ****ing country (Sweden) who says whe are "peaceful country" (yeah right?) but sells weapons to ashole countrys. **** the world **** the economy. But dont be blinded on stock going down one damn day. Tomorrow Nokias stock raise for another stupid reason. But who cares what happens to Nokia. Nokia is DONE as an european company anyway. Maybe Finland also can start sell more weapons too some corrupt regim instead?

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	almamo	2012-06-21 , 23:06
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Unfortunately more bad news coming up for Nokia:
T-Mobile, Germany's biggest telecom carrier, doesn't want Lumia 900. Reasons are dissatisfaction with the platform and the WP8 "update-conflict".

http://derstandard.at/1339638460732/...umia-900-nicht

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	Dared	2012-06-22 , 05:38
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Analyst suggests a Microsoft branded phone may be in the pipeline :/

http://www.computerworld.in/news/are...eline-13762012

	almamo	2012-06-22 , 06:41
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Originally Posted by Dared

Analyst suggests a Microsoft branded phone may be in the pipeline :/

http://www.computerworld.in/news/are...eline-13762012

If they can make their own tablets, they certainly also have the ability to make an own phone. But I doubt it that they would, I see more advantages for them if Nokia makes the devices. Although the homemade tablet was a big surprise too.

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	danramos	2012-06-22 , 09:26
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris

True, and that should be a lessen for them. Google haven't faced a real crises yet. But it will come. It's often totally unexpected and can be triggered by anything.

I do think android will suffer soon. Soon as in between 1-3 years.. Nokia's will eventually show somekind of positive results for a quarter and the stock slowly move to a few dollars.

Wow.. talk about missing the sarcasm. My point was that Google and Apple are NOT suffering any ills right now--and, in fact, aren't making the titanic cascade of errors that Nokia has been making over the past several years. In fact, quite the opposite--they're making GREAT products and supporting them well. Very well.

Originally Posted by mikecomputing

No one cant decide if a companys goes up/down just based on what happens one day. And because you Americans get big loans from China dopesnt make you (OR ANYONE!!!) better.

The world economy is CORRUPT and Its just plain ridicilous. So point is taken. EU is crisis IS infect Nokia stocks to as soon as some european country saying something bad about theyr country, witch seems happen every damn week now

Although I agree with everything you just said, again--not the point I was making. You also clearly didn't pick up on the dripping, overt sarcasm. It really wasn't hidden. Really. The point I was making was that Nokia is the victim of its own stupid mistakes and decisions--there are plenty of businesses, even in Europe, that aren't suffering nearly as much as Nokia right now.

Originally Posted by almamo

Unfortunately more bad news coming up for Nokia:
T-Mobile, Germany's biggest telecom carrier, doesn't want Lumia 900. Reasons are dissatisfaction with the platform and the WP8 "update-conflict".

http://derstandard.at/1339638460732/...umia-900-nicht

But Lumianman promised EVERYONE would adore the Lumia 900 and that it would reign supreme! :P WHERE'S YOUR ELOP GOD NOW?

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	volt	2012-06-22 , 10:23
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Originally Posted by danramos

Let we forget, Nokia was the top cell phone maker in the world not that long ago. I'll bet Google and Apple are terribly worried about the EU crisis and China news effecting their stock this drastically too, right? :P

When Google and Apple are affected, it's not as critical as when Nokia who is already half dead, is affected. But the financial news are full of worries and most companies in Europe, so Nokia isn't the only affected.

I'm not saying Nokia isn't tablebending their own owners, I'm just saying that parts of the daily variations are also global variations, not only Nokia management failures.

I wrote the previous post to help explain why Nokia stocks briefly went up.

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	volt	2012-06-22 , 10:27
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Imagine if Microsoft releases their mPhone, brim full of Nokia patents, and Nokia is caught with their know-nothing-about-it pants down.

BAM.

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	zwer	2012-06-22 , 10:41
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Originally Posted by volt

I'm not saying Nokia isn't tablebending their own owners, I'm just saying that parts of the daily variations are also global variations, not only Nokia management failures.

I wrote the previous post to help explain why Nokia stocks briefly went up.

Oh, I do agree that regular market fluctuations can affect a slight raise or fall of any given stock, I was not baffled why it went briefly above the opening value - I'm baffled why it hasn't drastically (i.e. 10%+) crashed. I mean, Microsoft announcement pretty much spelled: massive loses for Nokia in Q3, and with already bleak Q2 I don't get why it hasn't affected the stock market.

Maybe the last echelon of investors willing to short their stocks went away when the stock went bellow 2€, so now we only have investors that are betting on a long-term value; or the stock price is holding its value due to expected takeover and the bidding war in the process; I have no other idea why it wouldn't be affected. Still, when Nokia releases Q2 results I'm quite confident that even the most optimistic investors will leave the ship...

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	Dave999	2012-06-22 , 20:38
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A surface line with one tablet and one mobile phone from Microsoft is no worries as long as they not trying to beat it's allies but instead as exclusive showcase. Google using it's nexus line for that purpose. If nokia can come up with phones and tablets like n9, and lumia 900, the design is far from surface design. Nokia can cover all the rest of the areas. Phones and tablets are melting together and it's a huge market.

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