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#1641
hmm.. the phone can boot win90, macOS and god know what else... and yet can't run flash 10..... so much for opensource'ness!!
They could have not include flash with their proprietary stuff
Looks like everyone will be going to andriod when it's features come online.
I dont think meego will run on n900 well.
Running out of options and flash 9 is rare these days
boooo hooo :'(
 
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#1642
Android's UI isn't near as nice as Maemo...

Still haven't seen any OS that I would rather run than Maemo...

Meege might be an alternative at some point, but for now Maemo still rocks!
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Originally Posted by DrWilken View Post
Android's UI isn't near as nice as Maemo...

Still haven't seen any OS that I would rather run than Maemo
I like my OS's to be officially supported. Maemo can't say that. And the rest, it's all eye candy.
 
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#1644
Originally Posted by deny_winarto View Post
Sorry if this has been posted, but i found someone point at this on a maemo forum ..

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/fold...eflash-a8.html

Does this actually work?
Can someone take a look at this?
It's dated 10 December!
 
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H3llb0und: There are pages and pages of discussion about that in this very thread, starting around here.
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#1646
pages and pages and the people have it not published for other users

pages and pages and nokia and adobe ****ing unhappy ussers

why? android 2.2 flash 10.1 with 1ghz processor yes and nokia n900 1ghz processor and flash 9

well go go nokia will go to the hell

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#1647
Once again I'll remind the future of flash here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlNKJbDrYdU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUrIXfQKReg

And this is gonna be huge change for flash platform. GPU acceleration was something that everybody was waiting for from long time. Devs and users. And this is about mobile devices as well. If your device is flash 10.1 capable it will be ready for this. If not you need to buy new one.

I mean, of course you don't have to. Nobody will force you to do so. You can stick around to the full web experience :P
It's just sad to see flash 10.1 running N8 after all this.

Also I need to point out very common argument against flash that we all can hear from ages over and over again.

"Flash is proprietary plug-in that nobody should build stuff around such a technology."

First of all. As many people knows there is thousands of plug-ins you can use for many things for many browsers. Let's take for instance very adequate example. VRML Players that you can explore virtual 3D words written in Open Source markup language as standard and as open as HTML itself. Unfortunately it wasn't very well supported by open source lovers and some companies created several commercial ones for their own interest. Very promising technology of future died. (Yes it was invented in early 90s long before Flash came out). Nobody even bother to push some of this companies to open source for the plug-in that actually rely on the open source invention.

However Flash is for some people dangerous, because became so popular and very often is a replacement for pure html they saying it's
wrong to let them expand. Use Open Source solutions instead.

But if you think about plug-in like a little browser inside you browser (and this is exactly what it is) Did you demanded to open the sources for Safari, IE or any other stuff? No. You started to use alternative solution. The point is Adobe did what they could. To open all the parts of the ecosystem except the little browser and that was very pioneer movement in this case. because even crucial parts of the plug-in itself are open, like protocols or virtual machine.

In my opinion opening Flash Player completely would destroy what is this technology about. Every single programmer could have his own vision how it supposed to be done. Finally destroying all joy and cross-platform nature of this technology. And another more dangerous company could pick this up and set their own as the most popular. ...Imagine Flash in Apple hands...

So, people please, stop bullshitting around flash. You hate it just don't use it. You need equivalent of what Flash can offer? Go for it. HTML5 is open, of you go! Give us alternative for free and people are going to be thankful for that. If you think it's for banners only install flash blocker.
But keep in mind there is much more people they not giving a s**t what is going on behind the hood. It must work, attract them and give them what they expected.

The most beautiful technology and programing approach to do something can be destroy by nobody else but developer. And Open source lovers sometimes love shouting around how bad commercial world is doing completely nothing or producing a lot of unusable things.

Now think about it. New GPU accelerated Flash Player as well know with huge coverage plug-in could bring VRML technology to live again. It can be Open Source Project of course as many others in flash community. Why Open Source community failed to do so? Ironic don't you think? I am pretty sure Flash guys will do this.

Going back to subject. Lack of Flash 10.1 for me is end of the n900 or at least the statement Full Web Experience. And performance wise - sorry I am even trying to use flash 9 for my little flaemo experiment and not giving a s**t. If I can run stuff on N900 under Nitdroid without proper drivers.. sorry. It's clearly doable. There is another one aspect of this. That some of the flash production are just badly done and widely used. And this is sad there is no to much devs that really care about what they doing. And that rule apply for not only Flash devs.
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#1648
Originally Posted by qole View Post
H3llb0und: There are pages and pages of discussion about that in this very thread, starting around here.
I know, believe it or not I have been reading this thread from the very start.
I just mentioned it again because there's a new version out, dated December 10.
 
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#1649
I guess the people at firefox are working very hard as we speak to get this done in the future fennec beta release.

It will also support html 5 as they announced.
 
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Originally Posted by sygys View Post
I guess the people at firefox are working very hard as we speak to get this done in the future fennec beta release.
what's "this" ? i don't trust your guesses, so please provide a source.

and for the record (assuming by "this" you mean flash 10), fennec will NOT come bundled with flash, simply because mozilla doesn't have the license to redistribute it.
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