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we never will get flash10 ... live with it,,,,
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Originally Posted by SubCore View Post
what's "this" ?
I'd guess HTML5
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Originally Posted by ndi View Post
I'd guess HTML5
he wrote that "[fennec] will also support html5"
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Originally Posted by samipower View Post
...nokia n900 1ghz processor and flash 9
The N900 does not have a 1 GHz processor. It appears a fair number of N900s happily accept being overclocked that far, but not all do. Nokia can't release an official firmware update that overclocks devices to make Flash 10.1 run when doing so will crash devices.

Yes, OS2008 did bump the processor in N800s above the normal clock speed for that OMAP SoC, but in that case, Nokia had paid TI all along for speed binned parts, tested and certified to be stable at the higher speed. That's not true of the N900.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
The N900 does not have a 1 GHz processor. It appears a fair number of N900s happily accept being overclocked that far, but not all do.
I really don't care about flash at all, but what you said is wrong:

http://www.arm.com/products/processo.../cortex-a8.php

"The ARM Cortex™-A8 processor is based on the ARMv7 architecture and has the ability to scale in speed from 600MHz to greater than 1GHz."

I have "overclocked" my N900 @1150MHz, and I have no problems at all...
 
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Originally Posted by MaddogG View Post
"The ARM Cortex™-A8 processor is based on the ARMv7 architecture and has the ability to scale in speed from 600MHz to greater than 1GHz."
That quote doesn't mean all A8s can run at 1GHz or greater, just that it is available to buy running at those speeds.
 

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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Based on what I know, the secret dialogs (very likely) went like this:

Nokia: "Adobe, TI, Please get flash 10.x running on OMAP 3. Here's some money to do it."
Adobe and TI: "OK!"

<they go away for a while, then come back>

Adobe and TI: "Here you go! Flash 10!"
Nokia: "Wow. This is really slow and jerky. It's like there's no hardware acceleration at all. This is even worse than the current Flash we have. Can you please make the performance acceptable on current generation OMAP 3 devices, like our N900?"
Adobe and TI: "Oh probably. Give us some more money and we'll see what we can do."
Nokia: "More money? But you didn't give us anything yet!"
Adobe and TI: "Sure we did! You just asked for Flash 10, and we gave you that. You didn't say anything about performance."
Nokia: "But reasonable performance was implied."
Adobe and TI: <looking at their contracts> "Nope. Nothing in here about that."
Nokia: "You know what? Never mind. We have a bunch of new, faster devices coming out in Q4 2010 that will run this slug at reasonable speeds."

Of course, the expected devices have yet to come out, but ...
I like this one... But the story didn't mention that nokia got their money back from adobe right? Then we should have all rights to get that crappy flash 10.1 Since nokia still paid for it...
 
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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
That quote doesn't mean all A8s can run at 1GHz or greater
I don't see the point: mine can, probably your can. How many people on this forum run their N900 at 1GHz? I think the majority...those are only words that support this fact, nothing more, nothing less.

We are going OT, I know, sorry
 
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Originally Posted by MaddogG View Post
I don't see the point: mine can, probably your can. How many people on this forum run their N900 at 1GHz? I think the majority...those are only words that support this fact, nothing more, nothing less.
The point is that Nokia bought A8s (actually the OMAP system-on-a-chip) designed for 600MHz and designed their motherboard, heat-disipation system etc. around that frequency, as sjgadsby said. You linked to the arm.com site to say that sjgadsby was wrong, but it is you who are wrong, as you misinterpreted the arm.com text.

Yeah, yeah, I know:

Of course, some people may be able to overclock (I don't know the percentages), but if Flash 10.x requires a higher frequency CPU then Nokia won't release it on the N900, i.e. Nokia won't force people to exceed the designed specs. Of course, that doesn't mean that people cannot overclock and try to hack 10.1 onto the N900 anyway, just that it means it probably won't come from Nokia, if the claim that it requires a faster CPU is correct.
 

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Originally Posted by MaddogG View Post
I don't see the point: mine can, probably your can. How many people on this forum run their N900 at 1GHz? I think the majority...those are only words that support this fact, nothing more, nothing less.

We are going OT, I know, sorry
I think you are as wrong as wrong can be.
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