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How about a magnifying glass attachment that you slide over the device to magnify the screen to 4.1 inches, and that doubles as a hard case?
 

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#162
Originally Posted by mullf View Post
Would it make sense for the higher end device to have a smaller screen and the lower end device to have a bigger screen?
Making screens smaller while retaining resolution is expensive. Although I doubt it applies to this situation, yes, everything else being equal, a smaller screen device would be more high-end.

Assuming a 1:1 pixel ratio, the bummer is this information:

n8x0:

800x480 10.5cm diagonal = 9cm x 5.4cm

iPod touch:

480x320 9cm diagonal = 7.5cm x 5cm

n900:

800x480 9cm diagonal = 7.7cm x 4.6cm
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Originally Posted by chlettn View Post
I just wanted to say the same...it's quite amazing how worked up people get over a somewhat smaller screen. Seriously, if ebook reading is the number one use case and your eyesight is failing, how about getting something with a 6"+ eInk screen? Even prolonged staring at 4.1" will be bad for your eyes.

And for the people saying it will totally be impossible to read a book now: I haven't used FBReader in a while, but I'm fairly certain it offers different font size options. Choose a bigger one, problem solved.
The point is that for many of us if Nokia was to err in this device class it makes more sense to err a bit larger, not smaller. In addition, it is entirely possible to get the N810 size down a bit overall while still retaining the same screen size.

And just as those of us preferring the larger screen cannot assume our use case is paramount, the converse is equally true... BUT the caveat here is that the move made here is to reduce viewable real estate, which is typically anathema. Please note that cell phone screens have been trending larger. In fact, if the device in question is more of a cell phone then it supports that trend.

The tablets represented a unique class that, while bulkier than cell phones, were still within the realm of totability without adding the bulk of, say, a netbook.

In other words, the N800 and N810 found a sweet spot that we hope Nokia does not completely abandon.
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#164
Originally Posted by Aisu View Post
The UI? We could get any bloody UI we wanted on a new device thanks to the Mer team and Qole and PB, its the hardware that's the problem... we can't change that. Sigh.
Actually, it's thanks to Nokia and the Maemo SW team for putting Linux under the hood of these devices.

Last edited by qole; 2009-05-25 at 19:16. Reason: Moved my extra thoughts to a new post below
 

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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Actually, it's thanks to Nokia and the Maemo SW team for putting Linux under the hood of these devices.
I'm with you on that one. There's no Mer without Maemo.
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#166
Currently 83 reading means this is a serious issue how nokia position this device will determine how well they would sell compared to the n810 wimax version total failure so please keep the screen size to the current.
Oh Mer when is the release date.
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Originally Posted by mullf View Post
How about a magnifying glass attachment that you slide over the device to magnify the screen to 4.1 inches, and that doubles as a hard case?
Now, I'm making peace with MULLF. He just made the perfect add-on-gadget suggestion for Maemo-devices with screen sizes smaller then 4.1 inch. Gotta call our product designers...
 

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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Actually, it's thanks to Nokia and the Maemo SW team for putting Linux under the hood of these devices.
I was referring to the (UIs) software you guys have brought to the tablets though, everything from Penguinbait's KDE to your full-fledged Debian and LXDE and everything else. But, yes, thanks, Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing View Post
Now, I'm making peace with MULLF. He just made the perfect add-on-gadget suggestion for Maemo-devices with screen sizes smaller then 4.1 inch. Gotta call our product designers...
And any number of other GameBoy add-ons.

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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Actually, it's thanks to Nokia and the Maemo SW team for putting Linux under the hood of these devices.
(This was originally an edit to my first post, but things are moving so quickly in the thread, I decided to make it a separate post)

This amazing goodness is what makes my disappointment so intense -- putting a full desktop OS on a handheld, giving it a powerful processor, and then making the new hardware so difficult to use for desktop-style apps that some of us weep in frustration. Then, they put a zoomy big-button interface on it all and say that should fix things.
 

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