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#161
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Originally Posted by luca
Well, we've known for some time it's just a point release, so I've been anticipating more bug fixes and tweaks than major changes such as those that came with the first release of OS2008. That said, I have been hoping for some substantial improvements in MicroB.
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#162
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Originally Posted by luca
All I want is an improved n810 gps and web browsing experience. Anything additional is gravy.
Well, folks, it seems that diablo it's just a minor update with nothing really substantial in it,
quoting from a message on the maemo-developers list
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp....mo.devel/15389
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2008-05-06
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#163
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Originally Posted by luca
Right, just bug fixes for a whole lotta bugs which have been keeping some people from upgrading to Chinook. And a new (much better) email client, and a Gecko-based browser coming from upstream equivalent to an FF beta, instead of an early alpha.
Well, folks, it seems that diablo it's just a minor update with nothing really substantial in it,
quoting from a message on the maemo-developers list
- We've known for some time
- Why is fixing bugs less "substantial" than adding features?
from an earlier message it isn't even clear if the transition from diablo to the (eventual) successor will be possible via apt-get/application manager:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp....mo.devel/15374
It's not clear only in the sense that they're "working on" it, not already done and lounging around on the beach, so it might not get done if they all drop dead.
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2008-05-06
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Originally Posted by Benson
Ah, bring that up with Quim Gil. He's already suggested blocking similar, though admittedly, less drastic, behaviour on the part of Nokia's maemo programmers. Perhaps he'll open a bug for "drop dead" also.
...so it might not get done if they all drop dead.
Last edited by sjgadsby; 2008-05-06 at 14:42. Reason: EDIT: I'm never happy with what I write
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2008-05-06
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Originally Posted by Benson
I won't comment on the better mail program (I use claws, I tried some modest betas and it disappointed me, however I cannot tell if it's any better than the old one since I never tried it), but I'm not sure the browser has been actually updated:
a Gecko-based browser coming from upstream equivalent to an FF beta, instead of an early alpha.
The only major changes are feature updates to the browser (not actually
a new browser, it's still based on the same old gecko as 2008), a new
mail client, and the ssl change to support WiMax.
I'll actually be working on browser release notes starting this week (it
takes a long time). I might actually try to grab the highlights for the
other apps if I manage to do the browser notes in fewer than 2 weeks.
** many applications probably haven't changed at all
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2008-05-06
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#167
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Most of the troublesome bugs aren't from applications anyway.
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2008-05-06
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#168
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Agreed, all I really need is a better browsing experience, I reflashed to 0s2007 Opera the other day on my N800 and I had forgotten how quick the browsing was, granted the feature set wasn't there. Improved email, GPS acquisition, better (read quicker) browser and better bluetooth stack and IMHO N810 is pretty much ready for mainstream.
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2008-05-06
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#169
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Originally Posted by luca
Have you considered that the "minor" update of allowing any package (including core packages and kernels) to be updated via apt-get or updated via the Application Manager at any time might fundamentally change how versions are released in the future?
Well, folks, it seems that diablo it's just a minor update with nothing really substantial in it,
quoting from a message on the maemo-developers list
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp....mo.devel/15389
We won't *have* to wait 6-12 months for a firmware that completely clobbers all the customizations that you've done. That kind of flexibility will allow each package to get updated separately as they need to be.
I don't like having to wait a long time for a ton of updates to come simultaneously. I hope Nokia runs with this concept and brings more frequent, smaller updates that will be less disruptive and easier to troubleshoot if problems do occur.
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2008-05-06
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Originally Posted by mwiktowy
That's pretty much what I've been waiting for, to the point of being reprimanded here for asking it too many times (actually two), but it seems we won't get that with diablo. No new browser engine, no apt-get upgradeability.
Have you considered that the "minor" update of allowing any package (including core packages and kernels) to be updated via apt-get or updated via the Application Manager at any time might fundamentally change how versions are released in the future?
We won't *have* to wait 6-12 months for a firmware that completely clobbers all the customizations that you've done. That kind of flexibility will allow each package to get updated separately as they need to be.
I don't like having to wait a long time for a ton of updates to come simultaneously. I hope Nokia runs with this concept and brings more frequent, smaller updates that will be less disruptive and easier to troubleshoot if problems do occur.
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong though.