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#162
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Originally Posted by ericsson
mind telling us in how far NOKIA being an OEM solely for m@ke$$h!t is any better then being an OEM for Android devices or even both for Android devices and LostDOS Paralysed?
The tale of the ecosystems:
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And that's it. Without an ecosystem you are nothing but an OEM, a servant for the sneaky-company, doomed to do nothing but slash prices for the rest of time. The Nokia board want Nokia to be much more than a servant, and that's why the ecosystem is what it's all about.
Android is free, as you pointed out yourself, thus it offers better margins or allows lower prices.
what makes m@ke$$h!t's LostDOS Paralysed better?
the applications are not free? that's certainly helping
they are as buggy as any crap from Redmont; after 15 yrs of enjoying that on their PCs, ppl can't wait to have THAT on their phones, that's for sure
as i pointed out to daperl, m@ke$$h!t pushes updates down your throat no matter what; your phone crashes and doesn't start up anymore? too bad, go to your provider & have them reflash it; lose all your data / photos / comm history in the process.
GREAT
EDIT (even better...): lose all the crapy apps & BUY them again ¦-)))))))))))
EDIT': your competitors can use OVI Maps for free; that definitely helps NOKIA.
sure @ least to kill Symbian faster
imagine, you just need to call 911 when m@ke$$h!t decides to push an upgrade down your throat. your GF dies from an haemorrhage after slipping on a icy patch because you couldn't call an ambulance...
you aren't Flop, you are Balmer
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#163
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Originally Posted by shallimus
I don't know, but as a biologist I sure hope that they would leave the word alone. I actually have a proper use for the word. Now It has been raped almost as badly as the word "innovation".
How did any technology company ever get anything done before the word 'ecosystem' appeared on the lips of analysts/CEOs/bloggers?
EDIT: Currently working with microbial diversity in agroecosystems.
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2011-07-08
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#164
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I hate homophobic humour. Also hate it when people use the word 'gay' as a negative adjective.
but www.Elop.org still makes me smile.
but www.Elop.org still makes me smile.
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2011-07-08
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#165
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Originally Posted by olighak
LostDOS paralysed 6.x i had to use on a Samsung i780 (or was it 780i?) that a company i was working for pushed down the throats of its employees, did it, indeed.
You don't even need them to push an update. Doesn't Windows Phone disable all cellular functions once battery is down to 15%?
can't say about anything more recent
the hardware was more then decent, have to admit... just the SW
bought a NOKIA 1200 after a few days & was one of the few employees who didn't regularly miss phone calls >¦-)
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2011-07-08
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#166
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Originally Posted by misterc
I think your main probles is you are a hateful person and simply need to have someone to hate, or you think it makes you look cool, a real tem member of the TMO hate Elop faction, probably both.
mind telling us in how far NOKIA being an OEM solely for m@ke$$h!t is any better then being an OEM for Android devices or even both for Android devices and LostDOS Paralysed?
Android is free, as you pointed out yourself, thus it offers better margins or allows lower prices.
what makes m@ke$$h!t's LostDOS Paralysed better?
the applications are not free? that's certainly helping
they are as buggy as any crap from Redmont; after 15 yrs of enjoying that on their PCs, ppl can't wait to have THAT on their phones, that's for sure
as i pointed out to daperl, m@ke$$h!t least to kill Symbian faster
imagine, you just need to call 911 when m@ke$$h!t decides to push an upgrade down your throat. your GF dies from an haemorrhage after slipping on a icy patch because you couldn't call an ambulance...
you aren't Flop, you are Balmer
I will take it slooow. Nokia makes hardware. Microsoft makes OS. Both are making services, all the pieces needed for for an ecosystem. Now they join to make a joint services system, an ecosystem owned and run by both companies. Still, MS makes the OS and Nokia makes HW. This ecosystem is available for the entire mobile industry. This is fundamentally different than going android, because then you lose it all.
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2011-07-08
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#167
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Originally Posted by ericsson
the only thing you understand is BSoD, isn't it?
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I will take it slooow.
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you probably even love it.
questions to you, again
i'll cut out any "fancy" stuff not to saturate your attention span.
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m$ charges royalties, Google doesn't
why is m$ better then Google for NOKIA?
or, for that matter, for any other companies who all seem to desert m$ and flock around android. or even MeeGo, for that matter...
why is m$ better then Google for the customer?
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the applications on Android are made by individuals and are building on a GNU/Linux kernel, which is proven to be very efficient for fixing issues (which tend to be less frequent); m$ is m$; poorly written sw, apps developed by ppl working w/ a 9 to 5 mentality aso. asf.
why would the m$ apps be better then the android apps?
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we have seen last winter how good m$ is @ patching. some customer simply couldn't use their phones any more.
so simple
any questions?
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OVI maps will be made available to NOKIA's competitors.
how does that help NOKIA?
if you can't answer those questions, that simply proves our point, namely that the partnership w/ m$ is bad for NOKIA.
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2011-07-08
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Originally Posted by misterc
It's not a big change. Bing maps already used only Navteq data long before Elopcalypse and Nokia had partnenership on location based services with MS. Bing maps on WP7 will be now just rebranded to Nokia maps. On the other hand, it doesn't really help Nokia neither as nothing really changes.
OVI maps will be made available to NOKIA's competitors.
how does that help NOKIA?
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2011-07-08
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#169
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Originally Posted by Rauha
It's not a big change. Bing maps already used only Navteq data long before Elopcalypse and Nokia had partnenership on location based services with MS. Bing maps on WP7 will be now just rebranded to Nokia maps. On the other hand, it doesn't really help Nokia neither as nothing really changes.
This just proves how bad M$ are at developing software as even with the same Navteq data as Nokia Maps Bing maps is nowhere near as good or as popular. Nobody would buy a WP7 device for Bing maps however Nokia Maps is a different proposition.
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2011-07-08
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Originally Posted by droitwichgas
Near as popular as? In the US, Ovi/Navteq maps are not even a factor here. Google Maps trumps them all in use here.
This just proves how bad M$ are at developing software as even with the same Navteq data as Nokia Maps Bing maps is nowhere near as good or as popular. Nobody would buy a WP7 device for Bing maps however Nokia Maps is a different proposition.
Globally, more than likely a different scenario. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with bad/good. It's (Bing Maps) just not popular.
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EDIT: and he has a point.
but it would help to use the Quote & Reply link underneath the post one is refering too, indeed
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