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#162
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I imagine they will try their best to make PureOS work well on it, but from what I gather they do this the other way around; They pick hardware that works well with available software, rather than try and make the software suit the hardware.
To my rather under-educated eye, what I read is: no OS will be optimized for this endeavor.
I get that software isn't their thing; however you'd hope that somebody would reverse this current state of bloated software and allow for middle tier (or lower) boards to shine. We already see what happens with Android - throw 8 cores at it and it still will lag.
Btw the lag on android isn't really a bloat issue as such, just the way it seems to be built is the main thread for any process is also the UI thread, and so if you block it for even a short while you'll get UI lag.
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2017-10-11
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#163
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Android's main issue is the usage of Java.
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2017-10-11
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster
And a forked kernel.
Android's main issue is the usage of Java.
And binary driver blobs (strictly speaking not Android's fault, but this is how it is now).
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2017-10-12
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#165
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Originally Posted by jukk
Guys guys, I don't think we really need to enumerate all the failings on Android here :P
And a forked kernel.
And binary driver blobs (strictly speaking not Android's fault, but this is how it is now).
However this Purism thing turns out it's going to be a very different type of thing to an Android phone
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2017-10-12
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#166
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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz
yeah..... Open sourced OS on a crappy HW with few apps that drags arround since first mobile linux OS and 7 developers that just switching from one dead platform to another in hope that the next one will turn into something that will be accepted outside of their "63 geeks" circle.
However this Purism thing turns out it's going to be a very different type of thing to an Android phone
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2017-10-12
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2017-10-12
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#168
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Originally Posted by kinggo
The mass market is already owned by gigantic players with large sums of money to burn and a huge head start, so instead you find a niche and stick to it.
yeah..... Open sourced OS on a crappy HW with few apps that drags arround since first mobile linux OS and 7 developers that just switching from one dead platform to another in hope that the next one will turn into something that will be accepted outside of their "63 geeks" circle.
I don't think purism have any intention of breaking out of the foss geek circle, and I don't think they need to. It's the same situation with their laptops really, they're more expensive and worse performing than the big players but enough people buy them to sustain the company.
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2017-10-12
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Why do you think it is bloated? What exactly is bloated?
I get that software isn't their thing; however you'd hope that somebody would reverse this current state of bloated software and allow for middle tier (or lower) boards to shine. We already see what happens with Android - throw 8 cores at it and it still will lag.
AFAIK their OS runs Gnome 3 by default. Is it bloated? I don't know, depends on who you ask, but I've seen it running fine on much weaker hardware. And if you don't like Gnome, you can install something that you consider not bloated.
(IIRC both Gnome and KDE announced that they want to work on the Purism 5, but I think you can install Xfce/Lxde/whatever else too if you want to.)
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#170
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster
Fixed it for you.
Android's main issue is Google.
That's the reason *I* don't go anywhere near Android... not the perfs (or lack thereof).
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I get that software isn't their thing; however you'd hope that somebody would reverse this current state of bloated software and allow for middle tier (or lower) boards to shine. We already see what happens with Android - throw 8 cores at it and it still will lag.