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zymo is offline zymo
2011-05-21 , 07:48
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#1691
Originally Posted by msa View Post
whats all the talk about "no hardware keyboard"? all the pictures of the alleged n9 we have seen including the teaser show a keyboard. so why would they release it without one in the end?
just read the last 30 pages and you know why. Or just read this http://meetmeego.org/2011/05/21/alle...ce=twitterfeed
 
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2011-05-21 , 08:09
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Originally Posted by onethreealpha View Post
I wonder how many people here who are currently p*ssing and moaning about the lack of hwkb on this, as yet, un-announced device will, in the end, get one anyway once it comes out?
Agree, the lack of HW qwerty is being exaggerated. As long as the VKB works well, it should be fine.

C'mon people, the reason we are here is because we like maemo for its openness and awesomeness ... as long as that is maintained, the keyboard type shouldn't matter.
 

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2011-05-21 , 08:10
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Originally Posted by Diph View Post
After N900 I've been using Samsung Galaxy 3. It's really pain in the *** to use the keyboard. How is it with phones with bigger screens than Galaxy 3's 3.2"?
MY HTC Desire has 3.7" screen and I find it ok (got MASSIVELY fat fingers) although on-screen keyboard design can make a big difference, and I wouldn't say that the Desire's swkb is the best around.

My old 5800 was great. smaller screen but a never had problems bashing out long messages on it.

don't get me wrong. I'd prefer a good hwkb.


Maybe I'll write an email to Elop asking him to design and release (for $50 of course) a quad core gazillion mb ram (and hd) 4" 1080p hdmi 100 gazillion mp camera smart phone running native linux Os with completely open drivers, just for us few at TMO.

I'm sure he'll be happy to spend the millions doing it just for a niche market......
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2011-05-21 , 08:16
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#1694
Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123 View Post
I haven't said anything.. just confirming stuff or denying it. Like misterc said , so you can consider that useful or not.
I don't suppose you can tell us why you have the keyboardless comsumer version, when the one with the keyboard is for developers?

Just stop the debate of which one you will get. There is one device ie the consumer device which will be sold. The rest will not be for mass market... dev phone hence not counted as sales model.
I agree, I don't see the point in arguing about it. Nokia will release what they release, people on here have said numerous times they want a hardware keyboard and if Nokia were going to listen to us, they would have already. I want a hw keyboard myself, I could probably make do with a bluetooth one, but only if it clipped on to the phone like some iPhone ones do, one detached from it is much more of a pain to use, it'd still add unnecessary bulk over a built-in, but I could probably live with that.
 
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2011-05-21 , 08:19
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Thank you guys for the infos in this thread!

I myself would prefer a hw-keyboard (N900 User). However I am open to the idea of a V-keyboard if it really works well (swype etc..)

@Koajwujwer123:
I don't care much about the hardware specs of the phone if everything feels smooth and fast. I am however very interested in playing 1080p mkvs on a large monitor with hdmi input. Is this possible?
 
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2011-05-21 , 08:24
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#1696
My first keyboard phone was a 6820, which I later replaced with a 9300i. I now have an N900... I obviously prefer physical keyboards. So I guess I'll just have to try to somehow get a dev model phone.

The specs for the consumer phone does look really good though.... so maybe I'll get it for my wife. Oh wait, she also has always had physical keyboards too. Maybe I'll get it for my daughter... ah, but she's always had physical keyboards too. Hrm... maybe my mom could use it, since she never sends sms or does any typing.

As someone said earlier, it seems (opinion) like it would be a great idea for Nokia to release their top tier phones with and without a keyboard.
 

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2011-05-21 , 08:26
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#1697
Originally Posted by ezameht View Post
@Koajwujwer123:
I don't care much about the hardware specs of the phone if everything feels smooth and fast. I am however very interested in playing 1080p mkvs on a large monitor with hdmi input. Is this possible?
Exactly!

Only question from me is can we expect to see the nonqwerty phone announced next week? If not is it possible in next month or will this be again waiting for over a year(a'la RM-680)?
 

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2011-05-21 , 08:33
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#1698
Originally Posted by onethreealpha View Post
I wonder how many people here who are currently p*ssing and moaning about the lack of hwkb on this, as yet, un-announced device will, in the end, get one anyway once it comes out?
I might still get it. But the chances of that would be much higher ig it had a hw keyboard, so I'll have to examine the rest of the specs, and the included sw a lot harder.

I'll also be very interested in knowing what the requirements for getting a dev device would be.

Funny thing is if it turns out to be real we now have users here that may just be some random guy on the internet that made a guess and got lucky. But when they make their next guess a lot more people will believe it so they're in a brilliant trolling position.
 

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2011-05-21 , 08:43
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#1699
this really puts me in a difficult position. on one hand I develop on device, so the new developer device would be perfect, but I'm also a consumer, and I want the latest stuff, and in particular I want a fm transmitter, which the dev device lacks afaik.

regarding vkb's, how fast you type is completely irrelevant for me. I'm sure I could learn to type fast on a vkb, but until they come up with a vkb that doesn't take up screen realestate, I will require a real kbd.

I hope I'll be able to get both
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2011-05-21 , 08:44
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Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 View Post
Y'know, if you're right (and I have no way of knowing if you are or not at this point) the tech media are going to bust Nokia's balls like never before. A teaser is leaked showing a keyboard, that matches all the photos we've seen in the past year, FCC reports show schematics for a keyboard, and then (according to you, Elop's masseur) it will be touchscreen only.

Engadget, Pocketnow, Slashgear, all of them will write stuff that will damage Nokia's reputation, simply because it won't make any sense.
had you considered that there has been a rash of 'nokia' people on the forums ever since a video of a keyboard harmattan device was leaked onto the internet.

a device the 'nokia' people quickly brand as a developer toy based on an old unreleased model, along with the assertion that the consumer device will be a candybar.

does that come across as damage control to you...........?
 
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