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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by MaddogG
I was blaming the 1st party, ie. Nokia. Who left a lot of the initially installed, and most used (on a phone) apps to rot, while focusing on something else.
You are blaming a community (probably one of the best you will ever see on the net) that is doing what Nokia should have done, asking nothing in return. You blame people who are working for you, in their spare time, for free, and you didn't nothing to make Maemo better. Do you really think that is their duty to develop applications for free? This should be Nokia's duty, not theirs.
I'm not saying that something else wasn't more important, just wondering, what happened?
Previously, I've owned a few groundbreaking linux appliances (pacemaker, squeezebox etc) that really sucked when I first bought them, but after very few firmware updates the difference was like night and day. They turned out golden, much surpassing any expectations I might have had. The N900 is of course a much more complicated device, it's too bad it didn't turn out the same way yet.
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by Qrchack
Is quantity a source of success? YES - IT IS.
Just look on iPhone. Could u think of ANY rational reason why ppl buy such piece of crap like iphone 3GS? iPad?
Even Samsung i9000 with super hiper AMOLED screen, super turbo fast 1ghz CPU is a crap with this shitty android because it is a problem to run 5 apps simultaneusly. And this bald man with a m0r0n face I mentioned befor will buy it. Any reason? Advertisements? Marketing? No. He heard that his friend has an app that can fart when he shake a phone.
And as I can see, You didn't read my posts carefully - I didn't ask WHY. I asked WHEN.
I also didn't write quantity is good. I write it is good for the majority.
I didn't say I WANT anything from YOU. I wrote majority wants.
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by danramos
Yeah... that is a point
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by Qrchack
more apps = maintenance nightmare
I also didn't write quantity is good. I write it is good for the majority.
I didn't say I WANT anything from YOU. I wrote majority wants.
I for one don't want a phone that is made to cater for the majority. Since I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like it.
For example, the "majority" doesn't seem to care if there's a proper keyboard on the phone, I do. I don't even think a touch screen is strictly necessary.
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by danramos
I absolutely agree...but only if the "variants" are not "clones".
Although, it can be argued that a market full of many different variations of music players, video players, file browsers, web browsers and so on does foster far more competition and new ideas than a platform with far fewer or with far less interest to do so. Firefox vs Chrome vs IE vs Opera, anyone? It's always nice to have choices, too.
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by danramos
All the browsers should be taken out and shot one by one, until the internet becomes text again. Then browsing the web will be fast, even on a phone.
Although, it can be argued that a market full of many different variations of music players, video players, file browsers, web browsers and so on does foster far more competition and new ideas than a platform with far fewer or with far less interest to do so. Firefox vs Chrome vs IE vs Opera, anyone? It's always nice to have choices, too.
Nobody dare mention WAP!
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2011-03-10
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Ok it seems, i need to write it, if You can't figure it out by yourselves. It is not about YOUR needs. and by YOU i mean the community. You, and people of your, lets call it - level, are a fraction of percent of so called smartphone users in the world. And money are not made on a fraction. Money are made on masses.
You don't need a phone for a masses: Sure. And i don't want You to need. But the Community needs to understand, that if You want a platform to prosper - it needs to be available (in every meaning of this word) for masses, and not just for few geeks. Don't You understand, that even I, who insulted You, am a part of this fraction? And i'm proud of it! The problem is. that my, Your and any others pride cannot be sold for dollars.
You don't need a phone for a masses: Sure. And i don't want You to need. But the Community needs to understand, that if You want a platform to prosper - it needs to be available (in every meaning of this word) for masses, and not just for few geeks. Don't You understand, that even I, who insulted You, am a part of this fraction? And i'm proud of it! The problem is. that my, Your and any others pride cannot be sold for dollars.
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by Qrchack
You are wrong. A few facts: Linux is fragmented to death. This community is its own worst enemy. Nokia has only recently figured out what MOST people want, and it is not GHz monsters or Communicators or geeky N9XX, and MOST people couldn't care less about Qt or Linux or any other OS related stuff. MOST people simply want an easy to use farting phone.
Ok it seems, i need to write it, if You can't figure it out by yourselves. It is not about YOUR needs. and by YOU i mean the community. You, and people of your, lets call it - level, are a fraction of percent of so called smartphone users in the world. And money are not made on a fraction. Money are made on masses.
You don't need a phone for a masses: Sure. And i don't want You to need. But the Community needs to understand, that if You want a platform to prosper - it needs to be available (in every meaning of this word) for masses, and not just for few geeks. Don't You understand, that even I, who insulted You, am a part of this fraction? And i'm proud of it! The problem is. that my, Your and any others pride cannot be sold for dollars.
YOU people here on this forum should stop caring about what Nokia should do to become popular. You should stop caring about apps. You should stop caring about market shares. You should start caring about what YOU want. If what YOU want is not a pocketable Linux box with phone functionality, then why are you here? If you want apps and games, why don't you get an iPhone?
Nokia + MS is going to be the thing YOU do not want, but the thing most people want. All I hope is that Nokia will continue to be Nokia, and continue to make at least some devices that are not 100 percent mainstream. If they make one cameramonster, one communicator and one N9XX each other year, I will be satisfied. You can rest assure, no one else is going to do it, they will all make mainstream farting and games phones.
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2011-03-10
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Originally Posted by Qrchack
Whether I agree or not...
Ok it seems, i need to write it, if You can't figure it out by yourselves. It is not about YOUR needs. and by YOU i mean the community. You, and people of your, lets call it - level, are a fraction of percent of so called smartphone users in the world. And money are not made on a fraction. Money are made on masses.
You don't need a phone for a masses: Sure. And i don't want You to need. But the Community needs to understand, that if You want a platform to prosper - it needs to be available (in every meaning of this word) for masses, and not just for few geeks. Don't You understand, that even I, who insulted You, am a part of this fraction? And i'm proud of it! The problem is. that my, Your and any others pride cannot be sold for dollars.
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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Just look on iPhone. Could u think of ANY rational reason why ppl buy such piece of crap like iphone 3GS? iPad?
Even Samsung i9000 with super hiper AMOLED screen, super turbo fast 1ghz CPU is a crap with this shitty android because it is a problem to run 5 apps simultaneusly. And this bald man with a m0r0n face I mentioned befor will buy it. Any reason? Advertisements? Marketing? No. He heard that his friend has an app that can fart when he shake a phone.
And as I can see, You didn't read my posts carefully - I didn't ask WHY. I asked WHEN.
I also didn't write quantity is good. I write it is good for the majority.
I didn't say I WANT anything from YOU. I wrote majority wants.