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#171
Well, I'll be able to tell you all how well Nokia's Wimax implementation works with Rogers Portable Internet... when I buy the NIT v5... 9 months after it has been introduced... so hopefully someone else tests it, because you may be waiting a while for me...



If anyone finds a little battery-powered bluetooth / USB Wimax modem, give me the heads-up, OK? I'd be willing to take something like that for a spin.
 
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Originally Posted by Benson View Post
WiFi is designed for that; I'm on a university network, and (aside from a couple spots where they don't have enough APs) I can walk all over campus; multiple APs can be configured as one SSID, and handoff works.
It doesn't work here on the UBC campus. I've tried walking around campus with my N800 and I constantly have to reconnect as I move into the radius of a new AP. It's weird; the SSID of all of the APs is the same but as I move between APs, the new AP doesn't want to talk with my N800. I have to re-authenticate each time.
 
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Although basic WiFI isn't designed for easy roaming it works if the new AP you hit has the same SSID, different channel, and same DHCP server. I have 3 APs over a few acres and handoff works very well even while on a SIP call. I wasn't expecting to stay on a SIP call but it worked. Other apps like internet radio with the large buffer don't even give a click or any indication of the handoff.

A large campus might and likely segments the network and doesn't account for WiFI handoff. However the N8x has one of the better WiFI setups I've used. Mileage may vary though.
 
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#174
Originally Posted by qole View Post
It doesn't work here on the UBC campus. I've tried walking around campus with my N800 and I constantly have to reconnect as I move into the radius of a new AP. It's weird; the SSID of all of the APs is the same but as I move between APs, the new AP doesn't want to talk with my N800. I have to re-authenticate each time.
Hmmm.... guess they broke it. There's more than just matching SSID required, but I don't remember what all. Apparently, neither did they.
 
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#175
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
The 4 in green are used for factory firmware flashing.
I haven't used an adapter for few months, but iirc it doesn't connect to those, instead there is a bunch of pins in the battery area. The serial port should be in the blue circle.
Regarding the red one, i've never used, but i wouldn't be surprised if it isn't available in production units. Lots of test points disappear while the board goes through successive iterations of design.
Or it could easily be a peephole on the wifi or gps serial ports.
And, to close the pads discussion, i was referring to the 2 pairs of _square_ pads that are in the upper area. one of them is intersecting the red circle. Those are the speakers.
 

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Originally Posted by igor View Post
I haven't used an adapter for few months, but iirc it doesn't connect to those, instead there is a bunch of pins in the battery area.
Hmm. I may have to revisit the fixture and verify that. I might get to look at one tomorrow. You may be right, igor, but I could have sworn contact was made with that separate area...
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Hmm. I may have to revisit the fixture and verify that. I might get to look at one tomorrow. You may be right, igor, but I could have sworn contact was made with that separate area...
If I had to guess, I'd say that Panel Flash in the factory flashes via USB on the 4 pins circled in blue for performance reasons, and most Nokia employees flash their test units with the pins in green using a battery-compartment flash adapter. (This is based on an earlier post by someone saying that when the IT goes into host mode, one of the 4 pins goes to 5V, implying that they're USB headers.)

I know this was done with at least some past Symbian phones.
 

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#178
it'd be nice if Nokia could offer some sort of upgrade path for n810-non-wimax owners, even if it meant sending it in to have the case-back swapped out and a module soldered in.
 
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#179
They do offer "some sort" of upgrade path.

Send them $475. Get an N810 WiMAX Edition. Do whatever you want with your existing NIT.

There you go. That's _some_sort_ of upgrade path (full price with no value trade-in).
 
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#180
Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
They do offer "some sort" of upgrade path.

Send them $475. Get an N810 WiMAX Edition. Do whatever you want with your existing NIT.

There you go. That's _some_sort_ of upgrade path (full price with no value trade-in).
Contrary to some expectations, I don't think N810 prices will fall much immediately, so you shouldn't come out far behind; not like the N800->N810 jump, because demand for the new one is limited by network deployment.
 
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