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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by ragnar
'course not, but, either way, we're still waaaay better off with the OMAP3430 and its 1024x768-capable LCD controller than the re-tasked 14.4k modem Nokia is using as a controller for OMAP2.
The issue about increasing resolution that it's by no means 'free'.
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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by ragnar
Not necessarily true. Palm was able to go from Grayscale to color.. then 160x160 to 320x320 to 320x480 without breaking legacy apps.
Yes, changing resolutions is rather tricky. Take iPhone with 320x480 for instance. Changing the resolution for the next HW would then basically break the current 3rd party applications (or at least make them look bad) - especially since they still don't have resolution independence and are drawing their stuff using bitmaps.
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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by Benson
Cripes, I already have to use +2 reading glasses to do any appreciable work on my N800 (yes, I'm >40, actually 46, and I hit the "needs reading glasses @ 40 right on schedule!).
Device constraints != screen constraints; it's been suggested an N810-size platform could handle a 5" screen, and an N800-size definitely could.
You can make them even crisper than they are, you can make fonts smaller (although you can right now, too; resolution's not limiting on this at present) and in fact you can make gui elements smaller, at the cost of having to use the stylus; this is useful for ported apps.
And there are too many things designed around pixel spacings (notably on the web) that would be usable fit to the N8x0 display's size, but demand more pixels.
I think on a 5" screen, going as far as 1280x800 is the threshold of usefulness; anything over that probably won't help. But we're still way short of that.
That said, I'm with you on the 1280x800!
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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by ragnar
Agreed. If anything changed in that regard, I'd prefer the screen size increase a bit.
I'd personally say that the 800x480 resolution is really good already
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2008-10-09
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It also only lasts until you reboot.
liqbase has a nice gui option for changing this
heh, this was meant to be a reply to qole from 3 pages back
liqbase has a nice gui option for changing this
heh, this was meant to be a reply to qole from 3 pages back
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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by Benson
There is slightly more to it. It drops to 330 only for dynamic dsp tasks, not any dsp tasks. Dynamic are those loaded by dsp_dld, static are those compiled into dsp kernel. They are no different otherwise, this is just policy. The static ones are exception and are used for uncompressed audio output/input. I guess one of reasons is to have flash in browser play videos better (@400MHz) with sound.
The maximum is either 400/133 (with no DSP tasks) or 330/220 (with any DSP tasks).
Performance simply keeps it at the same maximum; 400 without DSP, but dropping to 330 whenever there's a DSP task.
See also https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2746 for more details.
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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Yes, OMAP3430 will bring benefits also in this area.
'course not, but, either way, we're still waaaay better off with the OMAP3430 and its 1024x768-capable LCD controller than the re-tasked 14.4k modem Nokia is using as a controller for OMAP2.
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2008-10-09
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I personally have no problem with the controller.
The biggest upset is that I cannot enlist the help of the custom chips to take some of the strain.
ragnar, as far as you can tell so far, will we have access to all of the features of the omap3430, or do you simply not know yet?
The biggest upset is that I cannot enlist the help of the custom chips to take some of the strain.
ragnar, as far as you can tell so far, will we have access to all of the features of the omap3430, or do you simply not know yet?
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2008-10-09
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Originally Posted by lcuk
Yes, well, you're cheating.
I personally have no problem with the controller.
It's clearly a bottleneck for people who are not.
Originally Posted by lcuk
The information available is what's available. We're getting PowerVR drivers and OpenMAX will make DSP usage a lot more straightforward. What more do you need to know?
ragnar, as far as you can tell so far, will we have access to all of the features of the omap3430, or do you simply not know yet?
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Last edited by ragnar; 2008-10-09 at 20:07.